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Stéphane Garrelie
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The Spider-Man issue published at that time were Len Wein/Marv Wolfman ones. Ross Andru's run was coming to it's end the new artist was Keith Pollard and a guy named John Byrne did one issue around that time too.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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"it's"! I wrote "it's"? It's sick.
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Caleb M. Edmond
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I remember reading somewhere (at the height of the MUTANT fanfare) in an interview with one of the 'Powers that Be' at M***** at the time saying, "If Spider-Man were created today, he would have most certainly been a MUTANT."
As if something was wrong with maintaining the originality of his classic origin. UGH!
Edited by Caleb M. Edmond on 06 September 2011 at 10:16am
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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño
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When I was a kid all my characters were created equal: Big Explosion!
Later, in my teens I changed many origins to avoid the BE and created a evil doctor that made experiments on human beings...
Then Aliens!
Then Magic!
I don't know why I refuse to create mutants...
There are no mutans... only mutants
Edited by Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño on 06 September 2011 at 11:22am
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Bill De Simone
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Not to get all "meta", but isn't this a point in 2112? Once the Next Men were triggered, then they spread all over the place, leading to the halflings?
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Peter Martin
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The number of known mutants should be: the X-Men, a few reserve X-Men, a couple of evil mutant groups (i.e the brotherhood of evil'uns and the Hellfire club) and that's about it.
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Jesus Garcia
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IIRC as originally conceived by Stan and Jack, Mutants were the inexorable future of mankind, in the wake of the influences brought about by the atomic age. It goes to reason then that their numbers would grow over time. But, given that we are talking about comic books, new mutants should have been introduced only if they have novel and interesting abilities or dramatic and ironic consequences as a result of their mutations. The mutant proliferation tendency, by the by, seems to be a result of creative bankruptcy which find expression elsewhere in the Marvel stable of characters: Observe the multiple Hulks and the multiple Captain Americas.
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Kip Lewis
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It's sort of funny that mutants became the overused idea for creating
new characters, because Stan Lee once said he used mutants in the X-
Men because he felt they were over-using the power from accident
pattern. Or something close to that. I believe he said that in one of
those Origin books he wrote a couple of decades ago.
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Keith Thomas
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I think when I started reading the book (late 80's) there were around 22 present and former X-men + the New Mutants and since then I think every new writer has introduced a whole new group of "trainees" who get added to the pantheon since obviously the old ones have to grow up and move on which might have been this books problem from the start. Maybe if the original X-men had been the school's teachers instead of students they'd still be the only X-men.
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Ray Brady
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I remember a time when the Legion of Super-Heroes, with its whopping TWO DOZEN members, was considered a large team.
These days, the X-Men, Avengers, Justice League, and possibly even the Teen Titans have all had more members in their history than the Legion.
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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They reproduce like rabbits...
;)
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Rick Whiting
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Didn't House of M take down the number of mutants down to 198 for the whole world??
So a top 100 would be more then half of every mutant in the MU.
Or did they change that since then???
Or maybe I am misremembering this??
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The funny thing about HOM, is that it wouldn't have been necessary if Marvel hadn't allowed Morrison to increase the mutant population to millions of mutants during his New X-Men run. Morrison even wrongly identified most of the mutants on Genoshia as being "true" mutants (they are actually artificially created mutants called Mutates).
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