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Trevor Krysak
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I'm one of the biggest fans out there of Hawkeye. If you had to pin me down and name my favorite characters in comics he's #1. As someone who caught the entire WCA run, Byrne and others included, I say he wrote a decent story. And wrote Hawkeye as the character has been portrayed, a hothead. Hawkeye has taken a stand from time to time and quit the Avengers. Taking over the GLA was just par for the course.
I think it is more than safe to say that John Byrne has a healthy respect for the characters he writes, big or small. Sure I'd love to have seen Hawkeye stick around throughout the whole run being the center of attention. But he had him react to things in keeping with the character. The worst thing he could've done was to write Hawkeye poorly or "off model". I think in many ways it's easy to tell when a character, any character, isn't written properly. We've had multiple threads on here railing against lame renditions of Spider-Man, Batman and others. That definitely wasn't the case here.
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Victor Rodgers
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Yeah he didn't have Clint sleep with his best friends wife.
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Trevor Krysak
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Or kill him in a really lame way.
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Sam Karns
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He was my favorite WCA character as well, I saw the treatment wrong. I know JB treat the characters right and you are right the worst thing he could have done was write Hawkeye poorly. You are right, Trevor.
Edited by Sam Karns on 23 January 2006 at 6:41pm
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Trevor Krysak
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You had a viewpoint to express Sam. Just like everyone. That's what forums like this are for. Glad we were able to give you a different perspective.
To change the topic a bit. Not really under the current Marvel but at some point I could see another West Coast Avengers or similiar west cost team book. Champions maybe. It's fun to see stories set in places west of New York. A different locale can be interesting.
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Andrew Bitner
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I don't know if it's a matter of loving or hating certain characters-- my guess is that JB works with the characters that are available (or-- ugh!-- forced on him by editorial mandate), then works up stories that suit those characters. Some of them will put a character, like Jean Grey or Hawkeye, through a wringer... but isn't that what you pay your bucks for? I don't buy comics to see heroes score easy and meaningless wins, after all. Heroes aren't heroes if the victory is effortless.
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John Byrne
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Remember the Annihilus story I did in FANTASTIC FOUR, where Alicia spent a good part of the arc strung upside down from the ceiling? Someone actually wrote in to ask why, if I hated Alicia so much, I didn't simply leave her out of the book.Some people are so stupid it must hurt!
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Andrew Bitner
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oh dear lord...
evidently any story that entails any degree of suffering or tribulation must be evidence of a burning hatred on a part of the writer. Why else would you put these poor, innocent folk through such duress? You fiends, you!
=sigh=
Couldn't be that you want to tell a good story where the win means something?
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Tim O Neill
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I am halfway through the "Vision Quest" TPB and am loving every minute -
what a great book. I haven't read these in years and I love that they have
been collected. I'm up to the part where US Agent is "talking" to his parents.
It was hard getting my hands on this book. I had to go on my own vision
quest just to find one. I spoke to many holy men, whose sage wisdom sent
me from store to store. I finally climbed the mountain and became
enlightened at Things From Another World in Univeral City. And like all
enlightened souls, I then went to get a hot dog.
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Elliot Smith
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QUOTE:
| Remember the Annihilus story I did in FANTASTIC FOUR, where Alicia spent a good part of the arc strung upside down from the ceiling? Someone actually wrote in to ask why, if I hated Alicia so much, I didn't simply leave her out of the book. |
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Was that Alicia, or was that a Skrull? Maybe you were subconsciously taking that Skrull imposter to task.
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John Byrne
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Watch it, Smith! I know where you live!
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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Yeah...sometimes it get's so tired to see people write around JB's run on FF. And sometimes i wonder:
- When exactly was Alicia substituted by a Skrull?
- If Fanttastic Four 2099 where the same FF that traveled on the Negative zone, and how did they come back?
- And Sue had given birth to the baby that she lost, and was named Valeria, by Doom...
Aggghhhrrr....my head!!!
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