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Andy Mokler
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I'm not sure why it popped into my head, but for the life of me I can't remember who Franklin Richards is named after(if anyone).  I'm pretty sure he first appeared during your run of FF so hopefully the question is right up your alley.  If not, I'm betting your knowledge of their history is pretty darned good.

So, is Franklin named after someone and if so, who?

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Franklin was named after Johnny & Sue's late father,
Franklin Storm, and their friend and partner Ben
Grimm. His full name is Franklin Benjamin
Richards.
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Coincidentally Mr Byrne, wasn't the issue where Franklin Storm died the one that made you stop buying comics?
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Yes. This one:



When I guessed correctly who, who, who the
Invincible Man was by page 3, I decided I'm maybe
been reading these things too long.
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And, running the risk of making you feel old, this was the first FF story I ever "read" at age 3 in a British annual called POW! in tones (along with a reprint of the Meteor story from Spider-man). I have fond memories of that story.
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Hey, I was right and didn't know it.  I kept thinking that he was named after the Thing but it didn't make sense since he was named Franklin.  I didn't realize his middle name was Benjamin. 

I guess my FF reading started too late, I had no idea that Franklin Storm ever made an appearance(s?).  Was he a favorite character of yours JB?  I don't understand why his death would compel you to stop buying comic books.

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 QUOTE:
the issue... that made you stop buying comics

Mr. Byrne, you stopped buying comics at 13-14 years old [FF #32 dated to 1964], is that right? How did you keep up reading comics without buying them afterwards?

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I stopped buying and reading when I was about 14. I "returned to the fold" when I was in my early 20s, and then, by staggering coincidence, I happened to wander into a local second hand book store the day after someone had sold his entire Marvel collection. That coincidence was compounded by the fact that his FF's began with (drumroll) issue 32 and ran right up to just a couple of issues before the then-current one.
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So...Mr. Byrne...you returned on time to the "Coming of Galactus"?
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his FF's began with (drumroll) issue 32

Amazing!

Follow-up question: when you work at a comic book company, do they have a library of back-issues to help authors and artists familiarize themselves with characters and storylines?

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Yes -- tho such volumes do have a tendency to get
stolen.
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...by staggering coincidence, I happened to wander into a local second hand book store the day after someone had sold his entire Marvel collection.

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How long did it take to read all those comics-- were you in the mood to rip through them all in one go? 

I wonder if some of your clarity about comics came from receiving the whole enchilada at that age.  Do you attribute any of your insight to the way you digested such a massive dose of Marvel comics?  
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I tore thru the FFs over a single weekend. I DO NOT
RECOMMEND THIS!! The whole world looked like it
had been drawn by Jack Kirby for a week!
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When I began reading through Spider-Man's entire history a while back, I had to slow down. I was seeing Ditko multi-image acrobatics in my dreams!
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Probably a good thing you weren't reading Doctor Strange then Greg.
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 Andy Mokler wrote:
I'm pretty sure he first appeared during your run of FF


Just wanted to point out that is not so.  Franklin Richards first appeared during the original Lee/Kirby run on FF.  He was born in Fantastic Four Annual #6, from 1968.
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How old is Franklin Richards?
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Here's a question for everybody.  Was Franklin Richards a mistake?  It seems that having children almost always leads to characters aging, so that the children can age as well. 
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JB...and what happened to Agatha Harkness? Franklin's nanny? Have you ever wanted to do further stories with her involved? I can recall being so riveted to FF comics when Agatha was involved. She both spooked and fascinated me.
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I don't know if Franklin Richards was a mistake, but I know that I never cared for him.

In my first story (FF #208) he didn't appear and, when I started to read regularly the book I found him grown up... And I didn't know there was a Franklin Richards, either!
I don't know, it's almost like Franklin weren't part of the legend, for me...

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Here's a question for everybody.  Was Franklin Richards a mistake?  It seems that having children almost always leads to characters aging, so that the children can age as well. 

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Wehn Reed and Sue got married, it was merely the illusion of change. Their relationship, as well as the group dynamic of the FF, didn't change a whit.

Franklin was simply a new character, and his introduction didn't really cause any changes, or lead the FF down the path of aging.



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JB...and what happened to Agatha Harkness? Franklin's nanny? Have you ever wanted to do further stories with her involved? I can recall being so riveted to FF comics when Agatha was involved. She both spooked and fascinated me.

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Agatha was killed by her son, and evil Warlock. I brought her back in AVENGERS WEST COAST (since she was burned at the stake, and remembering a particularly good episode of "Bewitched" I knew that was something no one could ever do to a real witch!). I do not know her current state.

As to the question of whether Franklin was a mistake -- yes, most definitely. And Agatha was brought in by Stan and Jack as a way of rectifying that mistake. A way to get Franklin out of the book in a more or less permanent way, back in those days when killing characters was not considered a first option.

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Franklin was simply a new character, and his introduction didn't really cause any changes, or lead the FF down the path of aging.

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Could not disagree more. When you have a cast composed largely of adults, years can go by, decades can go by, and even the most moronic, brain-dead, anal jerkoff fanboy will not be able to complain that time is not passing as it "should". But when you have a baby, every issue s/he is in cries out "TIME IS NOT PASSING" -- unless the kid ages. Which is, of course, what happened to Frankling. Any by inference, everybody else in the Marvel Universe.

Didn't cause any changes? I cranked him back several years in age when I got on the book, but there was no getting around the "fact" that something like half a decade had passed in "Marvel Time" since his birth -- half a decade for Reed, Sue, Ben, Johnny, Peter Parker, the X-Men and everybody else.

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Franklin was simply a new character, and his introduction didn't really cause any changes, or lead the FF down the path of aging.

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Could not disagree more. When you have a cast composed largely of adults, years can go by, decades can go by, and even the most moronic, brain-dead, anal jerkoff fanboy will not be able to complain that time is not passing as it "should". But when you have a baby, every issue s/he is in cries out "TIME IS NOT PASSING" -- unless the kid ages. Which is, of course, what happened to Frankling. Any by inference, everybody else in the Marvel Universe.

Didn't cause any changes? I cranked him back several years in age when I got on the book, but there was no getting around the "fact" that something like half a decade had passed in "Marvel Time" since his birth -- half a decade for Reed, Sue, Ben, Johnny, Peter Parker, the X-Men and everybody else.

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Ah. Forgot to put on my thinking cap this morning. I was referring to immediate changes during the Lee-Kirby era, not later on. Overall, yes, it did cause problems, but that was down the line when FRANKLIN aged and became a toddler.



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I think Franklin has stayed more or less around the 4-6 year old mark you regressed him to JB.

As for Agatha Harkness, she was revealed as dead in Avengers Disassembled.  I don't know if she's still dead but of course the Scarlet Witch was involved so . . .

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