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Anthony Lloyd
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This is a great forum. I love hearing DIRECTLY from creators.
JB...Hellboy, Sin City and the Mask have been made into movies. I'm wondering if any Hollywood producers have approached you to do ANYTHING?
Edited by Anthony Lloyd on 07 July 2006 at 6:41pm
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John Byrne
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I was approached a couple of times about NEXT MEN, but it turned out they were looking for a bunch of superheroes they could drop into a generic story, as can be done with Batman or Superman or the X-Men. When I explained NEXT MEN is basically a novel, and that's the only story I would allow to be filmed, they went away.
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Anthony Lloyd
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Thanks. And thanks for not selling out your vision. Most recent superhero movies have been flawed in some way or other. S******* ******S seems like a retread of the 1978 movie. The Ghost Rider Movie stars Nic Cage as Johnny Blaze and will take place in Australia not the midwest of the U.S. Where was Cyclops in X2 or X1 for that matter? I could go on.
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Dave Jasinski
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I have to comment on the Fantastic Four movie, which I didn't see by
the way. I grew up with JBs version in the 80s and to me, this is
what the FF should look like.
The only one who looks like he was cast well was Michael Chicklis as
The Thing.
Jessica Alba is very pretty but she looks like she should have been
one of Johhny Storms girlfriends instead of Sue Storm.
Reed looked too much like a male model and not enough like a
scientist.
Johnny Storm wasn't right, can't put my finger on why.
I was also waiting for years to see Doctor Doom on screen and the
Klytus guy from Flash Gordon in 1980 looked better than this guy.
Maybe I should have seen it before I form opinions but I caught a
few minutes on a TV screen at Best Buy last year and it doesn't
seem like I missed much.
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Frank Lauro
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GHOST RIDER will take place (as opposed to just being shot) in Australia? That makes no sense whatsoever. I've only been a casual reader of that title over the years, so maybe I'm missing something, but both Johnny Blaze and Danny Ketch were Americans who lived in the U.S., right?
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Gene Best
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A friend of mine produced an independent graphic novel, and was recently negotiating a film deal - the "Hollywood-izing" began right away (changes in characters, additional plot points, etc.)
It's like, "Um ... I'm sorry, I was under the impression you liked what I did ..."
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Anthony Lloyd
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Reed Richards was such a wimp in the Fantastic Four movie. Richards was smart and confident in the books. T
According to IMDB the next Fantastic Four movie is titled The Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer. It will be released in 2007. It will feature the Surfer, Doom and Galactus.
One day a perfect superhero movie will be made.
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John Bodin
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Anthony Lloyd wrote:
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I know JB and others disagree, but I think The Incredibles is about as close as we'll ever see . . . and it was pretty darn good. To be fair, though, Batman Begins was equally good, even though it wasn't 100% true to the source material.
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Gregg Allinson
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I liked the Incredibles, but it's nowhere close to "the perfect superhero movie". Superman: The Movie remains the gold standard, while Fantastic Four may be the rock bottom worst: not only is it unfaithful to the source material, it sends the message that if you're a cowardly idiot, you'll end up celebrated as a great hero, the girl of your dreams in your arms. It's seriously an offensive film.
Batman Returns is a close second. I honestly usually don't mind and sometimes even really enjoy Tim Burton's self-indulgent weirdness, but not if it gets in the way of the story. It did in Batman Returns. Big time.
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Gregg Allinson
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Johnny Storm wasn't right, can't put my finger on why.
Could be the fact that he looked significantly older than Sue!
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Anthony, I could be wrong, but I have never heard that Ghost Rider was set in Australia. It was filmed there for studio facilities and budgetary reasons, and I assumed that it was going to be mocked up to look like the midwest.
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John Byrne
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...The Incredibles is about as close as we'll ever see...*** Go thru "The Incredibles" and remove all the instances where the "humor" is at the expense of the characters (including those boffo yoks derived from watching heroes die because they are wearing capes), then take out a blue pencil and do a good, hard edit of the script to get rid of the seemingly endless parade of coincidences that drive the plot, and you would have a very good superhero movie. You'd have a different movie, but it woud be a good one.
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