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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 132351
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 2:31pm | IP Logged | 1
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This afternoon I was in the drugstore, picking up a couple of prescription refills I dropped of yesterday. Which is pretty much what I said to the young guy behind the counter. "You have a couple back there for me. Name is 'Byrne'."So he went to the drawers where the filled prescriptions sit, awaiting pickup. The first he found immediately. After about twenty seconds he found the other. Then I watched as he continued to poke thru the packages. Finally he rose and returned to the counter. "Sorry," he said, "I could only find two," This is why America is doomed.
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David Ferguson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 March 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 6782
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 2:52pm | IP Logged | 2
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"Sorry," he said, "I could only find two,"
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Did you say anything in response?
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Stephen Rockwood Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1255
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 2:54pm | IP Logged | 3
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Wow. This guy hands out prescriptions? That's scary.
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Darren Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 April 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 5994
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | 4
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Imagine if you'd been in for a bakers dozen...
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Brad Krawchuk Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 June 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 5819
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:16pm | IP Logged | 5
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Couple = two
Few = three
These are things I have known since I was about nine or so, but which still elude even my more intelligent friends.
"I'll take a couple" says one friend to me, as I hand him two bottles of beer. And then he looks at me, and asks for two more.
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John Papandrea Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 647
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | 6
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Well I would be confused too if John dropped "of" instead of "off".
:-)
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Ted Pugliese Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 7979
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:21pm | IP Logged | 7
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Few = three --- Few has three letters
Some = four --- Some has for letters
I came up with this brilliant idea* when I was in elementary school. It has been a part of me ever since.
*Yes, I know that 'some' is not quantity specific.
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 September 2006 Posts: 7374
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:21pm | IP Logged | 8
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I can understand the frustration with bad language. Really. Though in informal usage "a couple" can mean more than two, but not by much. It strikes me as simply a case of somebody jumping past the formal, precise meaning ("two") to the informal, vague ("two or maybe a little bit more"). It's sort of like hearing hoofbeats and thinking "Zebras".
I find that as a rule if someone says " a couple" and you presume that they mean "two", they actually mean "3 or 4" whereas if you presume that they mean "3 or 4" they probably mean "two".
For all we know, a customer may have come up to the same clerk shortly before, asked for "a couple" of prescriptions and gotten angry because the clerk returned with only 2 of his three prescriptions. Its not easy being in the service industry.
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Ted Pugliese Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 7979
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | 9
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Great story though, JB.
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Ted Pugliese Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 7979
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | 10
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But a "couple" is two. Why would anyone think it is more than two?
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 September 2006 Posts: 7374
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:39pm | IP Logged | 11
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"But a "couple" is two. Why would anyone think it is more than two?"
Beats me. But it's been that used that way "informally" or "colloquially" in most if not all Germanic languages for, I think, centuries.
I know that in my language (Norwegian) it's listed as common usage. Quite frankly, in my country if someone argued that one couldn't use "a couple" ("eit par") to describe a quantity of 3 or 4 we'd think they were a bit thick.
That being said, it is obviously not as widely accepted in English, treated I suppose as a mere linguistic aberration like the double negative.
Vive la difference, eh?
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Ed Love Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 05 October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2712
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:44pm | IP Logged | 12
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Well, according to Webster.com, using "couple" to mean "few" isn't
incorrect, it's the 4th definition down, probably just because the usage as
such has become so prevalent.
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