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Daniel Gillotte
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I got some Ultimate X-men trades out of the library and I have to say, I don't get it.
Why take known characters and completely alter nearly everything about them? Did they really do this to make them more accessible? I could kind of understand them if they were "elseworlds" stories, but I really don't understand this at all.
I thought that some of the art was good, the Bachalo and Andrews stuff for instance. But the stories are confusing and twist the characters in all kinds of unappoealing ways that are drastic departures from their established ways.
Can anyone 'splain this?
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Pete Carrubba
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Maybe it's Marvel screwing things up before the film versions can?
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Paulo Pereira
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Why is this a movie thread?
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Daniel Gillotte
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BY accident! Can a mod move this? PLease?
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Peter Svensson
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The original idea was to make a title that was more accessible to new readers by using a streamlined continuity. That idea mutated and warped along the way eventually making Ultimate X-Men quite redundant. And not a very good read, though the art is generally nice.
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Howard Mackie
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Waaay back... back when I had a career in the comic book industry... I was approached by Bill J. to write Ultimate X-Men(apparently he liked my work and didn't realize that I had single handedly destroyed modern comics by participating in the CLONE SAGA) ... I took a look at his pitch, and my first response was, "What makes THIS an X-Men book?" I was tought to ask those silly questions back in the day. I turned the project down...maybe not the best career move I ever made. Who knows?
Howard
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Greg Kirkman
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Speaking of clones, Mr. Mackie, this gent (who worked with our own Glenn Greenberg on those Life of Reilly articles) apparently wants to talk to you as research for a potential book on the subject...
http://www.amishotaku.com/archive/features/haven10607.html
http://www.amishotaku.com/archive/features/haven20607.html
http://www.amishotaku.com/archive/features/haven30707.html
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Howard Mackie
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Thanks. We've been in contact. Still thinking about it.
Howard
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Paul Greer
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I've come to view all Ultimate books as What If..? or Elseworld stories. The brain doesn't hurt as much now.
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Pat Ditton
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Mr Mackie -- I have a friend who hosts a weekly internet-radio interview show with sci-fi writers / tv & movie writers. If you're at all interested - please email me.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/geekerati
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Jason Powell
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In theory Ultimate X-Men sounds like a decent idea -- one book, one single story, paring the X-Men concept down to something more streamlined and closer to the core than the bloated "mainstream" X-Men line has become.
In practice, well ... I remember seeing a solicitation for an issue that read "Introducing Ultimate Cable and Ultimate Bishop!" That was 'nuff said for me right there...
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Kevin Hagerman
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One of the reasons I've heard that X-Men: Hidden Years was a bad idea is because it would confuse readers as to which Angel was "real", which Professor X was "real", and so on. I think they didn't see the forest for the trees. X-Men: Hidden Years made it pretty darn clear it wasn't the current continuity. NOW we have to specify not just continuity, but universe. If XMHY was at all confusing, then what the hell are we to make of the Ultimate/Non-Ultimate morass?
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