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Anthony J Lombardi
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I stopped liking Wolverine when who ever it was began injecting the whole japanese thing into his storyline.
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John Byrne
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BWS' Weapon X was OK because it still kept a ton of mystery about the
character. It didn't show us a whole lot that we hadn't already seen before,
just embellishing it a little bit. ORIGINS was Wolverine's death as far as I'm
concerned. It turned this nifty little berserker character whose history was a
cloud, into a character with a defined backstory so ridiculous that it even
included a Jean Grey "avatar" to explain why he has always had a crush on
her. It also defined another cool character in Sabertooth. In all instances, it
sucked the mystery right out of Wolverine and made him a run-of-the-mill
superhero, albeit one that's over 100 years old. Blech.
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Joe Smith
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some people are just ornery.
(speaking about Logan...)
who needs to explain it?
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 05 October 2007 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | 4
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Modern comicbook "writers". There can be no secrets, no mysteries. All
must be explained, dissected, deconstructed, demolished, destroyed.
And, alas, it is what far too many of the "fans" these days seem to want --
while they complain about the books being boring and predictable, of
course!
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Andy Mokler
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Hey JB, if you were to cast an actor to play Wolverine, past or present, who'd you choose?
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Michael Andrew Gonoude
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JB: "Or the intended story should have been done! "
Could you elaborate (if it doesn't give away something you might use after you take over the reins at M****l, and restore the glory of a company with which I grew up)?
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Martin Redmond
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The changes in Storm and Wolverine were gradual enough for me to believe them. Though I started hating him when he stabbed Rachel in the gut. Between Rachel and Selene, I have no clue why anyone would think Rachel to be more dangerous.
I still kind of blame Chris for the whole "I'd rather kill my friends than a mass murderer" nonsensical bullshit in comics. I mean, come on, haha, a few issues later Wolverine is ready to gut Storm because she is possessed by Malice but he won't hurt the Black Queen who's some sort of cruel vampire sucking people's flesh off their bones for entertainment. Because it's wrong to kill when someone's really asking for it or something.
However, I truly started disliking him once he got his own book and some sort of easy cash cow.
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Roque Martinez
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Pet Peeve:
Wolverine: Origins is the ongoing title published currently by Marvel.
Origin (sans 'S') is the miniseries that introduced the James Howlett name and background.
That being said, I hate Origin with a passion. It's not that I'm philosophically opposed to telling Wolverine's true origin, it's that I'm opposed to it being such a dull, pedestrian bore.
Jeph Loeb is currently retconning it in the Wolverine title, apparently, Wolverine is some sort of immortal wolf being from ancient times. Works for me. Anything is better than Origin.
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Matt Reed
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"Wolverine is some sort of immortal wolf being from ancient times"
Wow. Talk about suck!
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Roque Martinez
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Beats James Howlett, though.
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John Byrne
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Wolverine is some sort of immortal wolf being from ancient times.
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Is there a Wolverine Totem?
Is there any room for an original idea at ^^*****?
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Wayde Murray
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Quote: Beats James Howlett, though.
Not by enough.
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