JB, when a comic is produced in the manner of using a full script from the writer, how much storytelling does the penciller actually do? The writer pretty much dictates pacing, layouts, setting and such, don't they?

If a book's storytelling is described as being poor, and it is done full script, how much of that would actually be the penciller's fault?

These problems are mostly solved, of course, if the writer is willing to work "Marvel style" and actually let the artist do his/her job!

I find people being surprised by how quickly I can write something, even in full script. I wondered why this was, until I began to look at some scripts by other writers. Some of these guys seem to think that every single detail and nuance of a scene must be described in excrutiating detail to the artist.

I usually write in full script, but give only the ESSENTIAL information, assuming that the person who is actually drawing the thing is more than capable of adequately drawing it.

There's no reason that any writer needs to try to exercise that much control over the artist. Comics are a clloaborative medium, and the artist is at the very least equally, and in many ways more, important to the finished product than the writer, despite what many writers would have you believe.  Any writer who has to write so much that it overwhelms any input the artist might have into whyat the scene looks like is simply creating more work for himself, and wasting his own time. 

There's no reason that any writer needs to try to exercise that much control over the artist.

I would guess it's an ego thing; some writers might feel that their contribution is diluted if the artist is given too much creative freedom.

I'd also guess that there are artists who take too many liberties with scripts, adding unnecessary stuff (or changing sequences altogether) for the very same reason..

I think 'Marvel style' is very cool, resulting a a true collaboration based on the strengths of both writer and artist.

I always drew "stick figures" or likewise in my comic book scripts. You can see how you pot points will work and where to place everything on the page. I got the idea from a Curt Swan interview about a former fan who wrote all his scripts this way. However, Curt Swan was not that impressed by what that young writer accomplished, but he liked the idea. Sometimes my "art" got good reviews as well by the CEO, once she said my art was fun, and she had laughed (where itt was supposed to) at some facial expressions, and still it was not much more than stick figures and there I was surrounded by Sweden's best comic book artists so it was a good review for my stick figures. Later I heard she had taken some drugs because of she was going to the dentist that day.

Added: i have not exactly a college degree in English which is noticable.