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Wes Wescovich
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Posted: 12 July 2008 at 10:12pm | IP Logged | 1  

I found this tonight on ebay and it looks way too clean to be the original.  Lots of bids and the auction is  really getting up there, but something just doesn't look right.  Although I don't own any original silver age pages, I've seen many and this page looks much whiter and well, newer than I think it should.  Could this be one of the re-drawn pages for the Masterworks books that everyone has been talking about lately?

edited because I forgot the link!


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Greg Cordier
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This may be one of the pages found at a yard sale recently.  The person purchased them for their child to color on, as I recall.
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Ok, I searched back through for the (I thought) recent discussion about the recreated art and couldn't find the thread. Or the previous one for that matter.  I did find on Dannyboy's blog where he has discussed this and even our own Gerry T contributed to his page.  Please bear in mind that I'm not trying to re-hash the our old threads, but to discuss the possibility that a 45 year old piece of paper that was used in production and printing could possibly be in this good condition. 

Greg, according to the blog, the circumstances of its discovery are similar to what you said. 
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$45,000+ so far and the reserve is not met?!?!?  
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$45K ? No problem, I'll just sign up for a new eBay Mastercard. 0% APR until 2009 ! 

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…to discuss the possibility that a 45 year old piece of paper that was used
in production and printing could possibly be in this good condition.

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As you doubtless know, I have a large collection of original comicbook and
strip art, some pieces of which are even older than this page . (The "Bringing
Up Father" daily I have is almost seventy years old.) All but two of the
pages are in very good condition. The Marvel pages I have from the same
vintage as this AVENGERS page are in excellent shape, except for a coffee
stain across one corner of my page from FF 5. (I knew I shouldn't have been
drinking coffee while looking at it. . . . )
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You soiled a Kirby page ? Shame on you !
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. . . sigh. . .
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Joe Hollon
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The comparison between this piece of art and the published Avengers page shown in the blog is enough to convince me this is NOT the original Kirby art.
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I'm comparing the screen version in the eBay page with my original copy of
AVENGERS 1, and aside from the code number at lower left not being on the
printed page, the only "differences" I can see could easily be scan artifacts.

What's making your spider-sense tingle, Joe?
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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It looks very clean, but that could of course be because it's a page that amazingly needed no paste-ups or corrections. One thing that bothers me, though:  The small pictures of the individual avengers on the side. Now, I would have thought them to be paste-ups, but of course there's no reason why Kirby and Ayers couldn't have penciled and inked those as well. 

But MY spider-sense is tingling at the fact that to MY eye (and this is based on a lo-res picture which means I'm probably mistaken) the Thor figure looks like it was at some point inked by Colletta. There's something especially about the eyes and face that make me think of Colletta rather than pure Kirby or Kirby / Ayers.

But hey, I'm not in a position to but it either way,so ...

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