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John Byrne
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DEAD MEN really got cheated. Woody Allen did ZELIG and critics couldn't stop falling all over themselves praising him for what was basically a cut and paste job. DEAD MEN actively inserted Martin into scenes, dialog and all!

(I have a DEAD MEN one-sheet signed by Steve Martin. Unfortunately, getting the autograph was not something in which I actively participated!)

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Curious bit of ICE STATION ZEBRA trivia. I discovered that Patrick Magoohan filmed this movie at the same time as THE PRISONER, and in order to cover his absence two episodes of that show were built out of recycled DANGER MAN (SECRET AGENT) episodes.
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Which is part of the reason people believe Number Six was the same character as the one he played on that show. Did Magoohan ever say one way or the other if it was or not?

AMERICAN HONEY, on Netflix. Recommended by my in-laws, and I am still trying to figure out why. Seriously, the movie was CRAP. Nothing interesting ever really happens. Shia (The Beef) LeBouf and Riley Keough are in it in supporting roles, and must have needed work. 







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Magoohan said Six was Drake, but his writing partner disagreed.

Or was that the other way around?

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I think it was the other way around. McGoohan usually denied it, because then they would've had to pay royalties to the creator of DANGER MAN.
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I looked it up since the book was on the shelf behind my computer .... from Fall
Out the unofficial unauthorized guide to The Prisoner by Alan Stevens & Fiona
Moore   its pg 54 if your curious

Patrick McGoohan always denied it

George Markenstein always held the opposite view

Tony Sloman the film librarian on The Prisoner claimed that in early continuity
sheets had Drake listed as the name for The Prisoner they later changed it to
avoid paying royalties Ralph Smart creator of Danger Man

I don't recommend this book btw it is rather unpleasant to read very dry and
dense

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MY MAN GODFREY (1956)

Remake of the 1930s classic, with David Niven and June Alyson subbing for William Powell and Carole Lombard. Same basic tale as a New York socialite “adopts” a homeless man as her butler.

Amusing, but nowhere near as good as the original—especially the second half, where it wanders off into its own story. However, this was where I first saw it, so I have a fondness for it built entirely of nostalgia.   

One of Godfrey’s chums from his past, when he was much more successful, gets gender-swapped to become Eva Gabor as a European countess with some remarkably saucy dialog for 1956.

Cordelia: Godfrey, you didn’t get my dresses off to the cleaners.

Francesca (Eva): Why, Godfrey, you never had any trouble getting my dresses off—to the cleaners.

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1984 (1984)

John Hurt, Richard Burton. Unrelentingly grim. Nobody suffered like John Hurt.

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Movie night pick from youngest daughter:

Val Kilmer in REAL GENIUS (1985)

Coincidentally, I'm about 90% positive I saw this on my 13th birthday, 35 years ago this weekend (it was either this or, uhrrm, RED SONJA)... one of my personal favorite '80s gems, one that's still not as popular today as it should be, and was only a minor hit back in 1985...

Kilmer is so good in this (so easygoing, funny & charming), it helps to underscore how much he seems to sleepwalk through more serious, dramatic roles, as if he was reigned-in too much.  (He certainly seemed all wrong for Bruce Wayne in BATMAN FOREVER, for instance.)

This one is still great fun, and somehow, has aged rather well!



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“- Mitch Taylor: You know, um, something strange happened to me this
morning...
- Chris Knight: Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-
god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and
throwing little pickles at you?
- Mitch Taylor: No...
- Chris Knight: Why am I the only one who has that dream?”

That quote from Real Genius has stuck w me for years. Real Genius and Top
Secret! are two little gems of Kilmer's career that don't get mentioned often.

How did your daughter even know about Real Genius?
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Nobody suffered like John Hurt.
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What a good actor he was! The chest-burster scene in Alien is memorable for a variety of reasons, but prime amongst them, methinks, was the hugely convincing build of a coughing fit into writhing agony that Hurt gave us.

Been a long time since I watched 1984, but Burton talking about those rats still gives me the willies.
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(John H., both my daughters watched REAL GENIUS for the first time last year or so and enjoyed it enough to want to watch it again.  And the first time they saw it, my eldest could not stop laughing at the lines you just quoted!) 



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