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Gerry Turnbull
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the Giant Man scene is based upon this
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Andrew Hess
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Really?
In the original Kirby art it looks as if Giant Man has lept in to position; the Ross art looks like he is striding across the rooftops.
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Michael Tortorice
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This is one of the problems with non-artists talking to artists about art:
"It looks great!" - non-artist
"But this, this and that are wrong." - artist
"But it looks fine." - non-artist
"But its wrong!" - artist
"But it looks fine!" - non-artist
Giant Man looked fine to me until ya'll pointed out the problems. And I'll be honest, he still does.
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Paulo Pereira
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He looks good to me too, for reasons I've explained.
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John Michael Jackson
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Giant-Man looks fine to me also. Like he was trying to stretch to step over a chasm where if he was walking with a normal gait he wouldn't make it.
Edited by John Michael Jackson on 19 February 2009 at 6:16pm
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 19 February 2009 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | 6
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Like he was trying to stretch to step over a chasm where if he was walking
with a normal gait he wouldn't make it.
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Stand up and try it. Use a nice, safe, flat, chasm-free floor. Step out as far
as you can with your left leg, swinging your left arm out with it. Tell me that
feels natural.
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John Michael Jackson
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No, it's not natural feeling but can't you stretch farther if you don't have to turn your hips to swing your opposite arm.
Anyway, I don't think it was meant to be a natural stride.
Edited by John Michael Jackson on 19 February 2009 at 6:53pm
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John Byrne
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No, it's not natural feeling but can't you stretch farther if you don't have to
turn your hips to swing your opposite arm.
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Huh?? Your hips rotate to follow your leading leg. It's your shoulders
that rotate in the opposite direction.
(This is also true vertically. Throw your weight onto your left leg and your
left shoulder will drop as your left hip rises. This is what give's the "cocked"
look so many artists seem to love when drawing the ladies.)
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John Byrne
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BTW -- for those of you who are even now scouring the pages of my work
seeking instances of left/left, right/right, let me save you some effort: you
will indeed find what you seek. Probably multiple examples, in fact, tho I
have been very careful with this one.
A mistake is still a mistake, tho, no matter who makes it.
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Wayne K Purdy
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Those sort of mistakes I generally can live with, as long as it doesn't take me out of the moment. I love the pic JB posted of Giant-Man, and probably would never have picked up on it. Only when the pose is too exaaggerated or out of proportion does it really bother me. (I'm looking at you Liefied!)
I liken it to a comment I once read (correct me if I'm wrong) JB wrote about writing Reed Richards and his scientific jargon. I'm sorry I don't have the exact quote, but to paraphrase, it just has to be believable if not possible.
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Michael Huber
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| Posted: 19 February 2009 at 8:12pm | IP Logged | 11
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The right hand panel of the Kirby Giant Man simply looks balanced. It has weight, and the weight looks properly placed to the pose.
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John Benson
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When I saw the panel I didn't "read" it as current motion, more as though he
was walking, stopped and now is twisting his body to react to something.
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