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Daniel Gillotte
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Hi friends,
I imagine that this general topic has been discussed before, but I have been wondering (after seeing the trailer for the wolverine origins mess) what exactly is the deal with his claws?
I always assumed that they sort of popped out of the back of his hand above the knuckles. I also assumed that they were installed by Weapon X, though I gather that there has been a change in that and the bone claw foolishness currently prevails.
Anyway, I never really gave it much thought, but have people like JB or other trustworthy Wolvering artists/ creators ever explained how the claws work? Specifically, how they sit when they are not in use?
Apologies if this is obvious somehow.
Thanks!
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John Byrne
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My assumption was/is that they withdraw into his forearm, which is what I
drew on the "flayed" Wolverine in "Days of Future Past".
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Vinny Valenti
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Something that came along later (and seems obvious after you think about it) is that the holes in Wolverine's hands where the claws come out close up shortly after the claws are sheathed, thanks to his healing factor, and every time that he "pops" them, he's tearing open the skin that closed up the holes all over again, His healing factor closes the wound around the claws quickly, but it still hurts like a bitch every time he does it. Makes him even tougher, no?
I could be wrong, but the first time that was apparently revealed was when Wolverine and Rogue lost their powers in Genosha, and the first time he "popped" his claws, he immediately started bleeding all over his hands, with no healing factor to close up the wounds again.
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Daniel Gillotte
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Thanks JB.
It's strange. As I looked through a bunch of images researching this prior to leaving the question, I am surprised at how many current (or somewhat current) images of Wolverine seem to have even the way that the claws come out of the hand represented improperly. (The movie, too seems to be making this a worse issue. Maybe the comics are following the bad lead of the movies?)
Anyway, a bunch of versions are out there with the blades seemingly coming out of his hands where his fingers meet the knuckles or some such weirdness.It distresses me. Probably more than it should!
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Chris Back
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I wonder what keeps his tendons from popping in two when he tries to cut something incredibly tough? Seems like Colossus throwing you at a Sentinel might sprain a joint!
As original as Wolverine was/is....I prefer the guy who could get really messed up and take a while to heal.
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I would like to strangle the person who decided he could regenerate from a single drop of blood. From "suspension of disbelief" to "I am the writer this week and this is how I say it goes."
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The story in which Wolverine regenerates from a single drop of blood involves a magical crystal. He's not supposed to be able to do it normally.
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John Byrne
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He's not "supposed" to be anything more than an 18 year old with retractable
claws mounted in his gloves -- at least, if what the guys who created
the character had in mind counts for anything.
Wolverine is a classic example of what I have dubbed "Madonna Syndrome"
(for the singer, not JC's mom) -- a scenario in which you have to keep
upping the ante in order to maintain your "rep". Chris and Dave introduced
the "healing factor" and the idea that the claws were part of him, and in the
first issue I drew he go punched literally into orbit, something from which it
was indicated it would take him quite a while to recover. When I was
working on the book, in fact, Chris and I took it that the "healing factor"
was his mutation, and was what allowed his skeleton to be completely
replaced with adamantium. Later foolishness (some forced upon the
character by Shooter in one of his "realistic" spells) gave him a skeleton
"laced" with adamantium, and a "healing factor" for all mutants.
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JB, did you like the abandoned High Evolutionary-aspect of Wolverine's origin?
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With what happened with the character in ensuing years, it's a shame this
was not "in continuity" rather than an alternate future (from Uncanny X-
Men 142):
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I could be wrong, but the first time that was apparently revealed was when Wolverine and Rogue lost their powers in Genosha, and the first time he "popped" his claws, he immediately started bleeding all over his hands, with no healing factor to close up the wounds again.
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If he lost his powers, wouldn't that have included having claws at all?
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John Byrne
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JB, did you like the abandoned High Evolutionary-aspect of Wolverine's
origin?
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Yes.
(For those unfamiliar, Chris and Dave kicked around the idea of revealing
that Wolverine was not a mutant at all, but one of the High Evolutionary's
Ani-Men. This is what they were hinting at when the Sentinels got confused
readings on him. They had to drop the idea when Archie Goodwin, not
knowing what they had in mind, "beat them to it" in his origin for Spider-
Woman.)
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