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Michael Penn
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Although Kelley and Doohan were both a good decade older than Nimoy and Shatner, they held up pretty well, circa TMP.

 

 

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I thought Leonard Nimoy (alcoholic smoker) looked the mostravaged. Perhaps this was why the writers gave Spock that sojourn inthe desert before he rejoined the crew. As a Vulcan (presumably even ahalf Vulcan) he should have been the least affected by the passing ofthe years.
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I didn't really notice Nimoy's aging until ST IV came out. He looks like a totally different person from there on out.
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I found the difference very noticable in TMP. Even his VOICE had changed.

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BTW, can't recall if I mentioned that the first issue of FRONTIER DOCTOR has been bumped back to April so that ANGEL: MUSIC OF THE SPHERES can have March all to itself.
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I found the difference very noticable in TMP. Even his VOICE had changed.

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Shatner's voice in the films is also a bit different, no doubt because he's a cigar afficionado. Deeper, more gravelly.

Interestingly enough, Nimoy seems to look and sound better (and more at ease) in TWOK than in TMP. I don't recall offhand when he stopped drinking, but maybe that had something to do with it. The makeup also seems a bit different in that film--less harsh-looking and more subtle.

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"Even his VOICE had changed."

Something that always seemed off to me about TMP's Spock for years... until I realized that, for some reason, Nimoy's voice was actually overdubbed for much of the film, creating a flatter, more metallic tone than we were used to.  Don't know if that was intentional or not.

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EVERYONE's voice was overdubbed for much of the film. Pretty much every single scene on the Bridge had to be looped, due to the noisy film projectors behind the set that were used for the display screens. This problem was solved for TWOK when video monitors replaced the projectors.

I've occasionally wondered if the film would have worked better if a solid 80% hadn't needed to be looped. Recreating compelling performances in a recording booth can be a challenge for even a great actor. It's entirely possible that the emotion that appears to be lacking in the film at times is partly the result of the actors having to loop almost everything. The on-set dialogue may have been more energetic and natural-sounding.

For example, compare Spock's line "I offer my services as Science Officer" in the film's trailer (on-set recording) to the more monotone, looped version in the film itself. The trailer has a better reading of the line, I think, and Nimoy sounds more like the Spock we know (although perhaps Nimoy took the colder route on the looping stage in order to emphasize Spock's character arc).

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I noticed a big aging (and slight weight) jump in Nimoy between STAR TREKs IV and V as well. As I recall, he had trained like a madman to handle directing and starring in IV (much more demanding than his small onscreen role in III). Between IV and V, he had very few on-camera roles and had become a very successfull director - I think he, perhaps understandably, let himself slide a bit at that point.

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Nimoy had been so lean for so long, it was quite a shock to see him go "soft-in-the-middle" in TREK V !  Happens to the best of 'em (and the rest of us)!
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Meanwhile, back on the FRONTIER…

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Absolutely cannot wait to read the dialogue between these two!
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Wow... that's a terrific Scotty!
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