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John Byrne
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Absolutely cannot wait to read the dialogue between these two!•• When it came to scripting these two, the first question I found myself confronted with was What does Scotty call McCoy? On TOS and subsequently, we'd seen Bones call Scott "Scotty" many times, but Scotty had not called the good doctor anything but… Doctor. Certainly I could not recall him EVER having called McCoy "Bones". Eventually I settled on "Leonard", and an occasionally more formal "Doctor". This, I felt, reflected their relationship, being that of friends, but not of the Let's Go Camping Together kind that Kirk and McCoy are.
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member

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They're not all screencap tracings. The first shot of Scotty on that page, which is his first appearance in the issue, is traced from a photo. But he has a distinctive enough face -- high hairline, "flat" hair, small and wide apart eyes, and of course the mustache -- that I am "freehanding" the other shots, as I do with McCoy. +++++++++++ I'd kinda guessed that. Color me even more impressed, then! The freehand work looks spot-on! +++++++++++ Chris Ryall is now gently nudging me to do a TOS vintage series with the original crew! Not sure I'm ready for that! +++++++++ You've clearly been testing the waters with each successive IDW TREK book. ROMULANS one-shot: Likeness of Mark Lenard. ASSIGNMENT: EARTH: Likeness of Robert Lansing, generic likeness of Teri Garr, and Victoria Vetri (and Nixon!). First series to feature the Enterprise. ROMULANS: THE HOLLOW CROWN: Likenesses of John Colicos and Bill Campbell. One-panel likeness of Bill Shatner. CREW: Likenesses of Majel Barrett, Jeff Hunter, John Hoyt, and Leonard Nimoy. Two issues set aboard the Enterprise, with the key players from the first pilot in major roles. ROMULANS: SCHISM: More likenesses of Barrett, Colicos, and Campbell. Major Constitution-class starship action. FRONTIER DOCTOR: Likenesses of Shatner, Kelley, and Doohan. There seems to be a progression here, from bit players and guest-stars to the main cast, as well as from alien ships and locations to the Enterprise herself. I'm sure there's a tiny voice inside you growling--"Do it! Dooooo itttt!!!!" Don't ignore it!
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 19 January 2010 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | 3
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Certainly I could not recall him EVER having called McCoy "Bones". Eventually I settled on "Leonard", and an occasionally more formal "Doctor". This, I felt, reflected their relationship, being that of friends, but not of the Let's Go Camping Together kind that Kirk and McCoy are. ++++++++ Yeah, even in private scenes together, he still refers to McCoy as "Doctor". And "Bones" seems to be Kirk's exclusive nickname for McCoy.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 19 January 2010 at 12:24pm | IP Logged | 4
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Chris Ryall is now gently nudging me to do a TOS vintage series with the original crew! Not sure I'm ready for that! **** Yes you is! Be'est thou nudged, man!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 19 January 2010 at 12:59pm | IP Logged | 5
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Here's the REAL problem with a TOS based series: that territory has been pretty thoroughly explored. Sure, nothing but the original series "counts", so I am technically free to do anything I like without worrying about contradicting novels, or other comics, etc. But I also don't want to hold myself up to cries of "So-and-So already DID that!!" So far, the response to my TREK work from that particular fan community has been almost universally positive (and what little has not has basically sprung from the fanfic mentality -- Well, that's not how / would have done it…) and I really don't want to poison that well.Perhaps if Chris and I can come up with something that has not been previously explored, I may take a swing at it.
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Steven McCauley Byrne Robotics Member

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JB, how about a post-TMP and pre-TWOK book -- I haven't seen much set in that time frame.
I also would love to see your idea on other Constitution-class crews in the TOS era.
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John Byrne
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I also would love to see your idea on other Constitution-class crews in the TOS era.•• Two of the pitches I recently made to IDW deal with just that. I've also thought it might be fun to do a 12 part maxi-series, with each issue set aboard a different C-Class starship. Perhaps with some connective "theme". (First thought would be the Klingon/Romulan War, since that has been established in official Trek lore -- but it would also happen after SCHISM, and by the time of that series about half the C-Class starships had been blowed up real good! Not sure a possible series would have as much oomph with fewer ships!)
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member

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Two of the pitches I recently made to IDW deal with just that. I've also thought it might be fun to do a 12 part maxi-series, with each issue set aboard a different C-Class starship. Perhaps with some connective "theme". +++++++ See, that's a cool idea. And at least one such issue would presumably feature the Enterprise! ++++++++++++ (First thought would be the Klingon/Romulan War, since that has been established in official Trek lore -- but it would also happen after SCHISM, and by the time of that series about half the C-Class starships had been blowed up real good! Not sure a possible series would have as much oomph with fewer ships!) +++++++++++ Well, we don't know how many Constitution-class ships were around during the movie era. And it could very well be that replacements for Constellation, Defiant, etc. were built during or after TOS (a la Franz Joseph's Star Fleet Technical Manual).
Edited by Greg Kirkman on 19 January 2010 at 1:56pm
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Eric Smearman Byrne Robotics Member

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JB, as much as I would love to see you do a TOS-era story with the Classic Crew ( and by all means; do so when you feel you're ready) I really find myself enjoying these "paths less taken" . Crew is my favorite thus far.
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Shaun Barry Byrne Robotics Member

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The McCoy/Scotty dynamic seems ripe for some mining--there were certainly never enough scenes between Kelley and Doohan (their best being TREK IV, of course). The characters have long struck me as two who would have a very easy-going relationship... the kind who could sit together for a drink and good-naturedly razz Kirk & Spock, but always toast the both of them by the end.
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Joe Hollon Byrne Robotics Member

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Twelve pages of thread and it hasn't even come out yet! Can you tell we need our Byrne comics fix?!?!?!
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Bill Mimbu Byrne Robotics Member

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Well, we don't know how many Constitution-class ships were around during the movie era. And it could very well be that replacements for Constellation, Defiant, etc. were built during or after TOS (a la Franz Joseph's Star Fleet Technical Manual). *** In Relics, Picard does mention that one Constitution-class ship still does exists in the Fleet Museum, but never really confirmed it that it was a refit or not (one of the TNG novels had it as a non-refit, with Scotty stealing it out of the museum with the captured TOS cloaking device to rescue Ambassador Spock from Romulus).
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 19 January 2010 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | 13
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In Relics, Picard does mention that one Constitution-class ship still does exists in the Fleet Museum, but never really confirmed it that it was a refit or not (one of the TNG novels had it as a non-refit, with Scotty stealing it out of the museum with the captured TOS cloaking device to rescue Ambassador Spock from Romulus). ++++++++ Who knows? It could very well have been the Enterprise-A!
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John Byrne
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Somehow, I'd like to think Star Fleet was "sentimental" enough to have kept one pre-refit version for display. Of course, if, as it would seem, Star Fleet followed naval models, old ships would either be "sunk" or used for target practise!
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Sam Karns Byrne Robotics Member

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12 part series would be cool, you could show how this war have affected the races we know. I would love to see the Nixon humans make a return to glory. I would love to see Captain Kirk and the crew of the Enterprise once again save civilization as they know it.
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Ed Deans Byrne Robotics Member

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I just watched the scene in question. In "Relics" Picard identifies the holodeck TOS bridge recreation as "Constitution class." Scotty says, "Aye. You're familiar with them?" Picard explains there is one in the fleet museum. It left no question in my mind there is an "original" Constitution Class starship in the fleet museum whether a sister ship of the 1701 or a recreation, it's never clear.
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James Revilla Byrne Robotics Member

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I always got the feeling that Scotty was like an unlisted man...and always referred to McCoy by Doctor in the saem knee jerk you refer to an officer as sir...even though Scotty was an officer himself.
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member

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Somehow, I'd like to think Star Fleet was "sentimental" enough to have kept one pre-refit version for display. +++++++++++ Agreed. Maybe it could be the Constitution herself. Or maybe all the parts stripped off of the Enterprise in order to make the TMP-refit version were just....put back together, Ship of Theseus style!
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member

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12 part series would be cool, you could show how this war have affected the races we know. ++++++++++ My mind has been playing around with the possibilities of such a series. Perhaps it could revolve around a given planet visted by each ship over a long period of time. Or maybe it could feature an event told from each ship's point of view (although that's perhaps too close to the style of SCHISM).
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member

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Solicit for the first issue is out: http://trekmovie.com/2010/01/18/exclusive-first-look-at-apri l-star-trek-comics-including-new-john-byrne-dr-mccoy-series/
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 21 January 2010 at 7:45am | IP Logged | 21
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"Looks like Byrne brought back some of his aliens from his StarLord days…mucho cool."Comments like this never fail to mystify me. Especially when, as here, they appear to be POSITIVE comments! There are no aliens on that cover that bear any resemblance to the ones I drew in STARLORD! What means this?
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Tim O'Neill Byrne Robotics Security
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Seeing that cover with the logo gets me jazzed - I am really excited for this title.
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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member

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For some reason I've always found myself drawn towards comic book covers with white backgrounds...there were a few times that I've bought an issue because the cover caught my eye like that!
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John Byrne
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A white background certainly can punch up the logo, as well as throwing the "action" forward. Black has a similar effect.
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Michael Retour Byrne Robotics Member

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This one looks so like so much fun!
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