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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 03 January 2005 at 11:16am | IP Logged | 1
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These days almost all new comic titles have trouble finding its audience. JB's new Doom Patrol also seems to have also encountered this problem. Though most of us who frequent this board are JB fans, its likely not all of us are currently reading Doom Patrol. Let's try to create a win-win excercise that will help D.P. and any other comics which would benefit from more readers.
Post up the name of your favorite "in need of more readership" book. Doesn't matter which genre or publisher, so long as you think it deserves more people enjoying it. Then one of us Doom Patrol readers will agree to try out an issue of the book*. In return you try an issue of Doom Patrol or the Blood of the Demon.
Let's use this thread to also say how we liked the other's comic, and whether we will continue on with it.
A few more rules to keep things fair (which also apply to BotD)
- Current readers of DP cannot suggest a book to other DP readers.
- Non-DP readers can suggest only one title. If you want other titles to be considered then please ask friends or fans on other boards to participate and suggest those titles here.
- A DP reader cannot accept a suggestion of a title he / she is already reading.
- The "comic swap" is a one-to-one exchange. For example if Jim suggests MutantMan and Frank accepts the suggestion first, then Jane cannot also accept Jim's suggestion later on. A different person will have to propose MutantMan for Jane to accept.
* "Try out" and "reading" means buying it from a retailer. Not from the secondary market, reading it at the shop, or downloading a bootleg !
** There has been a troll posing as "Joe Zhang" on other forums, trying to disrupt trading. Please note that Byrne Robotics the only board I post on as Joe Zhang.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 06 March 2005 at 10:12am
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Zoran Bekric Byrne Robotics Member

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Joe Zhang wrote:
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How many non-Doom Patrol readers are there likely to be on this board?
I would have thought that seeking out and registering on a board named "Byrne Robotics" would self-select for people likely to already be buying Doom Patrol. Ditto with the upcoming Bood of the Demon.
Regards,
Zoran
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Moyer Hall Byrne Robotics Member

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I didn't start buying DP until after reading the threads...
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Peter Hicks Byrne Robotics Member

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I bought all the JLA DP issues, and was not impressed enough to buy the ongoing series. Sorry, but I just did not care about the characters who were involved. Now, Demon, I will try!
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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security

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Peter Hicks wrote:
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I bought all the JLA DP issues, and was not impressed enough to buy the ongoing series. Sorry, but I just did not care about the characters who were involved. Now, Demon, I will try!
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Just try one issue of Doom Patrol, and suggest a book that someone on the board hasn't tried and we'll make a swap. What have you got to lose besides three bucks? I'm willing to try something new if you guys are.
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Rob Walker Byrne Robotics Member

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Shouldn't this thread be started on another board where most of the posters are not already reading Doom Patrol? I don't really go to other boards but I think there are several other comic boards where this 'swap' would be more effective in increasing DP readership.
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Tim O'Neill Byrne Robotics Security
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Peter H: "I bought all the JLA DP issues, and was not
impressed enough to buy the ongoing series. Sorry, but I just
did not care about the characters who were involved."
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I would suggest you buy the latest issue and give the series a
try on its own. It's a really fun and interesting. I really liked the
JLA storyline, but the characters get to shine more in their own
title. I don't think you can judge Doom Patrol by the JLA arc.
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Jason Fulton Byrne Robotics Member

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DP seems to get better as it goes along, each issue better than the last. And it looks sweet, check out the pencil galleries if you have doubts.
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Marc Foxx Byrne Robotics Member

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Paul Greer wrote:
Peter Hicks wrote:
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I bought all the JLA DP issues, and was not impressed enough to buy the ongoing series. Sorry, but I just did not care about the characters who were involved. Now, Demon, I will try!
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Just try one issue of Doom Patrol, and suggest a book that someone on the board hasn't tried and we'll make a swap. What have you got to lose besides three bucks? I'm willing to try something new if you guys are.
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And don't forget that you are getting a much "purer" JB product with DP than you were with JLA...no Claremont scripting and Hazlewood's inks are far more faithful to JB's pencils than Ordway's were!
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Brendan Howard Byrne Robotics Member
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I have to give Joe Zhang credit ... he is truly passionate about making sure
non-believers take a look at this book! Thanks for your efforts, Joe!
Brendan Howard
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 03 January 2005 at 9:02pm | IP Logged | 11
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Rob Walker wrote:
| Shouldn't this thread be started on another board where most of the posters are not already reading Doom Patrol? I don't really go to other boards but I think there are several other comic boards where this 'swap' would be more effective in increasing DP readership. |
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I'll be inviting folks from other boards to take a look here. All part of the plan ;)
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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Brendan Howard wrote:
I have to give Joe Zhang credit ... he is truly passionate about making sure non-believers take a look at this book! Thanks for your efforts, Joe!
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I've just too much time on my hands, that's all !
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Victor Rodgers Byrne Robotics Member

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The only book I read is Dragonball. I try to tell people how good it is, but they look at me like I farted in church. They do this because they saw one or two episodes of the American dub..
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Tim O'Neill Byrne Robotics Security
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I agree with Brendan H. - major props to Joe Z for spreading
the word. I want more people to read this title for selfish
reasons - I want to keep reading beyond 18 issues! I'm getting
the same feeling I did when Fourth World was runnning - I
couldn't wait for the next issue so I could learn more about
these characters who were new to me.
And Jason makes a good point about checking out the pencils,
but I still think you have to read an issue to get the full effect of
the storytelling. One issue is all you need and the latest is a
perfect example.
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Todd Hembrough Byrne Robotics Member

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Let me add my thanks to Joe as well. I think that most of us just
buy the books and enjoy them. But short of buying 10 copies each,
the best way to make sure that there is a DP 19, woudl be to spread the
word.
I think that I might have to try and start doing this. Only
problem is that I dont know any "fellow travellers". My
father-in-laws friend has a 10 year old, who I have on occasion sent JL
and Titans Go books to.
Do you think that DP is appropriate for a 10 year old? I dont
want to get into hot water with my Father in law or his neighbor.
If it is OK, then I will buy the whole run and send it off to
him. Wont help the sales #'s but every little bit helps, i guess.
Todd
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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Peter Hicks wrote:
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I bought all the JLA DP issues, and was not impressed enough to buy
the ongoing series. Sorry, but I just did not care about the
characters who were involved. Now, Demon, I will try!
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I think it be a very unreasonable thing to expect everyone here to read DP - that's certainly not the idea.
When I picked up Plastic Man in a "swap" on another board, I really
thought I was throwing three bucks away. I never liked Kyle Baker's
inking and his pencilling even less. But I was suprised when I found I
really enjoyed his Plastic Man. The guy who was supposed to pick up DP
never replied, but that's OK, I found a funny, zany book I
would have never considered otherwise.
I'm one of those guys who have had his fill of the spinoffs about
Wolverine's cousin's mutant hairdresser and the 40-part Batman
crossovers. I want to find new books to read and I think this is one
fun way to go about it.
BTW, I think Doom Patrol is a $2.50 book, not $3.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 03 January 2005 at 10:36pm
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 03 January 2005 at 9:33pm | IP Logged | 17
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Tim O'Neill wrote:
I want more people to read this title for selfish reasons - I want to keep reading beyond 18 issues!
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That's exactly my reason too.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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Victor .R. Rodgers wrote:
| The only book I read is Dragonball. I try to tell people how good it is, but they look at me like I farted in church. They do this because they saw one or two episodes of the American dub.. |
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Victor, I'll pick up a Dragonball this Wednesday then, if you will a Doom Patrol (and the latest issue #7 seems to be the best yet, though I haven't had a chance buy a copy so far.) Which publisher is it by?
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Mark McKay Byrne Robotics Member

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I'm reading DP. If anyone who isn't reading wants me to check
out a book they like in exchange for purchasing and reading an
issue of Doom Patrol, I'm in.
-Mark
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Victor Rodgers Byrne Robotics Member

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Viz publishes it. They sell it in eight dollar trade paperbacks. They are currently at volume #32. But thats the equivilent of five normal books. Viz use to do it in a normal comic format, but the direct market wouldn't support it.
Though one thing the series is divided into two parts Dragonball and Dragonball Z (due to the tv series popularity). The Dragonball half is all good, but DBZ becomes slow around the Androids storyarc. Geez im making this more complicated than it is.
I will pick up an issue of Doom Patrol soon. I've been looking for a monthly comic to read.
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Thomas Mets Byrne Robotics Member

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I'm game. I'll buy and read Doom Patrol #7if someone who has never read it buys and reads Ultimates 2 #1.
Edited by Thomas Mets on 03 January 2005 at 10:36pm
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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*bump*
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Brendan Howard Byrne Robotics Member
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Todd Hembrough wrote:
I think that I might have to try and start doing this. Only
problem is that I dont know any "fellow travellers". My
father-in-laws friend has a 10 year old, who I have on occasion sent JL
and Titans Go books to.
Do you think that DP is appropriate for a 10 year old? I dont
want to get into hot water with my Father in law or his neighbor.
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Depends on the 10-year-old and the parents. If the kid plays lots of
bloody video games, watched BUFFY and ANGEL on TV and is allowed to
watch PG-13 movies, then you'll have nothing to worry about. If the kid
still watches POKEMON, then you may want to rethink it.
Your best bet is to hand the comics to the father-in-law's friend and ask
him/her to make the decision. Just say "I thought your kid would enjoy
these; please page through them to see if you think they are appropriate."
Brendan Howard
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Dave Pruitt Byrne Robotics Member

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Thomas Mets, you're on. I had no intention of buying and reading Ultimates 2 #1, but I will if you try DP.
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Peter Hicks Byrne Robotics Member

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Alright, I'm game too. I will buy and read Doom Patrol #7 if someone volunteers to buy and read WE3 #2.
Edited by Peter Hicks on 04 January 2005 at 10:34am
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