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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Nice one!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 12:36pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

At the risk of thread drift, this piece, with one of the original X-Men and what was once one of the newest, got me thinking about when mutants in the Marvel universe began taking on more extraordinary appearances. Was Nightcrawler the first who didn't look fully human? It seems that since then, it's become more of the rule than the exception, with many mutants featuring bizarre appearances, much like the Inhumans.

I'm curious whether I'm correct that mutants originally were basically humans with an "X-tra" ability but with mostly human appearances. Did that change over the years?

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I've mentioned before that it took me a long time to "warm up" to Nightcrawler. He seemed from the start so very much at odds with Stan's original conception of mutants in the Marvel Universe being people with AN extra ability. Kurt was a virtual grab bag of such, with his bizarre looks, his super agility, his ability to "stick" to walls, his teleportation, his generating fire and brimstone when he did so, his prehensile tail, and, of course, his later revealed turning invisible in shadows. (When he got the "image inducer" it quickly became yet another power. Roger Stern grumbled at the time that Nightcrawler was rapidly taking on aspects of Green Lantern, with the "Oh, look! My ring can do something it couldn't do last issue!" approach.)

I was not at all surprised when Dave Cokrum told me the character had been originally conceived as a member of the Legion of Substitute Heroes. There Stan's restrictions on number and kinds of powers was not in place.

Very close to the end of my tenure, in the Wendigo story, I finally "found" Nightcrawler's place -- as the comedy counterpoint to Wolverine's grim-and-grittiness. I was soon gone, tho, so had no chance to really develop this.

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Thomas Moudry
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 12:41pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

It would've been fun to have read a Nightcrawler/Wolverine "buddy movie" mini-series from you, JB!
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Ben Mcvay
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

My "mystery" commission finally solved! Excellent job as always.

Some background for the board...when I requested this I gave JB  two lists of six characters each and let him pick one from each list. Any particular reason you chose these characters JB? 

FYI, this is the second in a series of old/new X-Men (Nightcrawler/Marvel Girl being the first).  I must admit that in my mind I had either Kitty paired with Angel or Iceman in this series of commissions, so it was a pleasant surprise. 




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Brad Krawchuk
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:11pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Ben - Great commission concept!

JB - Great commission!


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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:42pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Nice commission!!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Just had a small "Ouch" moment.

About fifteen years ago I started dating a young woman who one day informed me that she had been a huge fan of Kitty Pryde when the character was introduced, in large part because she and Kitty were the same age.

That former girlfriend turned 44 last month. See why "comicbook time" is such a good idea?

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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:50pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

It would've been fun to have read a Nightcrawler/Wolverine "buddy movie" mini-series from you, JB!

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We're off on the road to Magneto. . . .

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Steve Adelson
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 2:05pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

That former girlfriend turned 44 last month. See why "comicbook time" is such a good idea?
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One reason the character appealed to me at the time, I was also the same age.  She's aged far better than I.
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Shawn Kane
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Two of my favorite X-Men. Beautiful!

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Bill Catellier
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 2:32pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Always enjoy seeing Angel show up in a commission!  Beautiful work with Kitty!  Thanks for sharing JB & congrats Ben.
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José Emilio Amo
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Posted: 06 February 2011 at 2:55pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Lovely commission, I like the poses and the phasing effect, perfect!
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