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The X-Babies were an example of something I started noticing happening more and more in the X-Books after I left -- namely, anything that got mentioned around the office, even if it was a joke, would eventually end up in a story. "X-Babies" was what office wags were calling the NEW MUTANTS before the book settled on that title.
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While I didn't mind Kitty's fairy tale, the X-babies (And the whole Mojo stuff for that mater) were a step too far. I wondered at the time what the editor was thinking but then, clearly, when the editor did take a stand, things led to the departure of CC
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the X-babies (And the whole Mojo stuff for that mater) were a step too far.

That single panel is a fairly concise summation of a whole lot of things that went wrong with the X-Men after I left.

Tho, again, who am I to say "wrong"? Since sales continued to soar, obviously Chris & Co. were doing SOMETHING right!

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Once Byrne left I never enjoyed the X-Men as much again until The Hidden Years came along, and sadly that was cut short.
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The only thing I liked about the Mojo stuff was that Arthur Adams was doing the art.
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"I didn't like how "cute" the book became over time."

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Granted, this is filtered through a 10-year-old's exposure to the work, but I think it's a part of what made Dave Cockrum my favorite X-Men artist, just above JB. Though I felt that JB's work on the title was superior in several ways in a technical sense, DC had an element of "fun" to his work that I don't think JB quite mastered at that point in the late 70's. By some point in the 80's I feel that JB was able to get to that level, though.

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I liked the original X-babies story in X-men Annual #10 (that pic is from the second story) it was a take on the New Mutants being called the "X-babies" (its even mentioned by Sunspot) and the X-men being turned into "babies" was just a quick plot device it's only the second story where the X-babies were actual mini-me clones of the X-men where it got ridiculous.
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Nathan Greno
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Recently posted this pic in a commissions thread ("When I Wore a Younger Man's Clothes")...

Another example of the X-Men going "too cute"...

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Nathan Greno
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...at least "too cute" for me. "Bamf doll"? Nightcrawler has a hot, flight attendant girlfriend? Feels like the concept of the book is lost imho.

For an X-Men book, I feel this works better...

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Bleh.

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Was Amanda a witch yet, at that point?
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Yep.
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