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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:00am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

20" x 30" commission of Batman and Catwoman vs. Baron Struker and Madame Hydra

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- landscape format

- Please have a similar feel to the classic Steranko 2-pager, not necessarily in the layout, but basically all hell breaking loose

- Batman vs. Baron Struker are the most dominant figures; please draw them in hand-to-hand combat

- Batman in his 1970's costume (Neal Adams vintage with oval surrounding the bat on his chest emblem)

- Catwoman in her purple & green dress (as in the Batman montage you drew earlier this year) vs. Madame Hydra (version in Steranko’s Captain America/Nick Fury) are the primary secondary figures.

- please have the background be the hordes of Hydra, Kirby style weapons, robots, monsters or gizmos, with some Kirby Krackle

– please include the Hydra logo/emblem somewhere in the illo

Full sized en route to Dan for the Gallery.

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Christos Seros
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:03am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Perfect execution of the description given. I love this commission
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David Henriot
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:04am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Wow ! Great !
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Brad Teschner
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:05am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Damn JB...you're good! Why doesn't this look cluttered?!?
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William Roberge
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:05am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Damn that is nice.

 

You are the guy to go to for great perspective shots!

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Paulo Pereira
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:06am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Nice one. Looking forward to seeing the larger version.
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Colin Fawcett
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:07am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Great stuff. Love that Batman!
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Scott Green
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:08am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

A very interesting choice for a cross-over battle.  Love everything about it!  Thanks for sharing JB and congrats to the commissioner!
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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:10am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Perfect execution of the description given. I love this commission
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What Christos said... with an exclamation point!

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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:11am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Damn JB...you're good! Why doesn't this look cluttered?!?

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Because. . . . it's not!

I've been told Wally Wood used to say of backgrounds "Keep 'em busy!" What a lot of artists seem to miss, however, is that there is a great difference between "busy" and "cluttered". Looking at Wood's work -- especially some of his EC jobs -- is a good lesson in how this works. Lots and lots of STUFF in the background, but not so much that it overwhelms the foreground action. Or, sometimes even worse, FLATTENS the panel!

It's a lesson it took me a while to learn, but it was well worth the effort!

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Bill Catellier
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:17am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Wondeful!  I keep trying to take it all in, but my eyes keep moving from part to part.  Can't wait to look at the larger size in the gallery.
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Jason Mark Hickok
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:18am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Fantastic!  There is so much detail and depth to this.  I love the weapon that Baron Struker is holding.  A very cool commission idea and you definitely nailed this one, JB!  Well done!
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William Roberge
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:19am | IP Logged | 13 post reply

I find my self playing a game with these big commissions. I try to find the missed inked part before JB does.

I have yet to succeed.

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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:23am | IP Logged | 14 post reply

I find my self playing a game with these big commissions. I try to find the missed inked part before JB does.

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I spent a LOT of time staring at this one, Bill, when it was "finished". SO much going on!

But I'm fairly sure -- well, kinda sure -- well, almost sorta sure that I haven't missed anything this time!!!

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Aaron Smith
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 7:41am | IP Logged | 15 post reply

Excellent.

There's usually more story in each of these commissions than in most full issues put out by Marvel or DC now, and every one makes me want to read the pages that should go before or after the image in the commission.

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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 16 post reply

Wow!
Aaron Smith, I could not agree more.
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 8:21am | IP Logged | 17 post reply

The art work is beyond fantastic, but a DC hero (and a DC villainess) fighting Marvel villains just looks wrong too me.
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William Roberge
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 8:30am | IP Logged | 18 post reply

I'm actually surprised that there are not more of these cross over commissions. Talk about being able to do a What if/Elseworlds story of your very own!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 8:34am | IP Logged | 19 post reply

'm actually surprised that there are not more of these cross over commissions.

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Me, too! When Jim Warden finally talked me into taking commissions, I was sure they would form the bulk of the orders. But, no, still way down in the minority!

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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 8:37am | IP Logged | 20 post reply

This is my new crossover favorite! Awesome job, JB and congrats to the commissioner...
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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 8:38am | IP Logged | 21 post reply

By the way, as of this piece, Batman gains a third line on the Character Count chart, and Catwoman starts her own. She really should have gotten a line quite a while back, as this brings her up to NINE commission appearances.
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 8:41am | IP Logged | 22 post reply

Or, sometimes even worse, FLATTENS the panel!
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I've seen that happen when artists don't vary the line weight between
foreground, middle and background images.
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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 8:53am | IP Logged | 23 post reply

The art work is beyond fantastic, but a DC hero (and a DC villainess) fighting Marvel villains just looks wrong too me.

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Pieces like this point up the main differences that USED to exist between Marvel and DC -- you know, back when each company had something of a unique identity.

Look at Catwoman next to Madame Hydra. Catwoman, despite the whip, actually looks, well, nice, doesn't she? Her costume borders on downright demure! Madame Hydra, on the other hand, is pure nasty. And not JUST because of the whip!

This is why the BATMAN & CAPTAIN AMERICA crossover I did worked, of course. Cap has often been described as "the DC character who was accidentally published by Marvel". There is no jarring contrast between Batman (at least, WW2 vintage Batman) and Captain America. As, indeed, there is really no jarring contrast between the Joker and the Red Skull.

But it always feels kinda odd to me when I put Kirby Krackle in a scene with Batman in it!!

Still, this was a fun piece, and like I say, I wonder why the crossovers have not been more prevalent.

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Intense!  Amazing piece, JB!!





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Posted: 07 August 2011 at 8:55am | IP Logged | 25 post reply

I've been waiting for this one to pop up!  I got to see this one "in-progress" during my visit to JB's! 



There's the detail of the picture I posted with JB signing my comic sitting on top of this commission!  I got to see all the perspective grids and pencils on most of the piece.  Very cool.  This was also my first look at a large-sized commission in person!  Nice.
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