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John Byrne
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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 11:47am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

For the ongoing series of original + "new" X-Men.

Approx 11x17 inches

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Great Pic!!!!

I've always loved your drawings of Havok.
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Tim O'Neill
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Yes!  Two of my favorites.

That solid black on Havok works so well.



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Havok is a tough character to draw. Surprisingly so, for such a "simple" costume. Deceptively simple would be the proper phrase.

Inking this piece this morning I was reminded once again of the irony in Havok, that a character who is all about big, explosive power requires a very delicate touch in the rendering. Those hoops on his head, for instance. Make them too big or too small, or too thick or too thin, or any combination, and they just look GOOFY.

Dave Cockrum, whose chief mutant power seemed to be an uncanny ability to draw just about any character and absolutely NAIL them, seemed alway to have a wee bit of trouble with our young Mr. Summers, here. It was looking at how Dave drew Havok, in fact, that put in my brain the warning to be very, very careful when I did so myself.

And speaking of irony -- sad, isn't it, that a character whose costume was pretty much DESIGNED to be CGI, long before such a thing existed, finally arrives on screen and the filmmakers choose to make him very… ordinary.

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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 11:59am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Looks great!  John, a question about Havok's costume.  I know costumes are designed for appearance, but how do you feel about the mask and accesssories?
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Two characters that, in my opinion, you do the definitive versions of.  Your Havok conveys such power.  Even when you draw him ABOUT to unleash, my mind can fast foward to the next panel...and complete destruction.

 

 



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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 12:00pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Fantasically Adams-esque.  Love the way you draw Havok. The facial expressions are just sheer brilliance.
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John, a question about Havok's costume. I know costumes are designed for appearance, but how do you feel about the mask and accesssories?

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Not sure what you're asking, Sam.

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John, a question about Havok's costume. I know costumes are designed for appearance, but how do you feel about the mask and accesssories?

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Not sure what you're asking, Sam.

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There have been several discussions here about costumes serving a purpose.  Do you feel this holds true for Havok's mask?

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As originally established, the mask/headdress was part of a control unit that Larry Trask used to turn Havok "on" and "off". As such, it was VERY "practical". Once Alex escaped Trask's control, I suppose it was debatable whether the thing was still needed.
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I've always liked Havok's costume.
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Mike Benson
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One of the best.  Any artist that would tamper with this sleek, classic design is off his rocker.  If you're a comic book artist and you think to yourself, "that's one costume that needs updated," please leave the industry now. 
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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

I really, REALLY, like this one...great job, JB!
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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 12:17pm | IP Logged | 14 post reply

Here's the other two in the series, so far. . .

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What a neat idea for a series -  really like the combinations so far.  Excellent work, JB!



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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 12:25pm | IP Logged | 16 post reply

This one is mine! It looks great! My favorite part is Havok's face. Wolverine looks awesome. 3 commissions down in this series...4 to go. 
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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply

That combo picture reminded me of something I haven't thought of in years.  I used to think that once Kitty got her graduation costume that it would be neat to have it look like Marvel Girl's above (dress) costume only a different color.  That was back when Kitty still wore the school's uniform of course.
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One of the best. Any artist that would tamper with this sleek, classic design is off his rocker. If you're a comic book artist and you think to yourself, "that's one costume that needs updated," please leave the industry now.

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The irony here -- that word again! -- is that Havok's original costume is literally timeless. There is absolutely nothing about it that ties it to any particular epoch. Yet those who felt it was their mandate to "update" the design shoveled in all the elements that were "hot" at Just That Moment, making a costume that was almost instantly out of date!

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Wallace Sellars
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I like the way JB draws Wolverine's claws. (Has Marvel moved back to that
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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | 20 post reply

Havok here is perfect.  The mask, the face, the solid black inking, the power being just barely held in check.  Sweet. 

Somehow I did not realize this was a series!  Keep 'em comin'!
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I always felt Havok's costume is probably one of the best costumes out there, especially when you add in his power effect.

It has never been improved upon. I agree, perfect for CGI or modern animation techniques; it was truly a costume "ahead of its time" and yeah, timeless.

Now that I think about it, Havok and Polaris were my "first" X-men. The first place I read him in a story was a Treasury Edition reprint of Havok's battle with the Hulk. I knew nothing about him, or his brother and the X-men, but that story made him a favorite of mine. I just wish he could be used well, and in the right place and the right costume.

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One of the best. Any artist that would tamper with this sleek, classic design is off his rocker. If you're a comic book artist and you think to yourself, "that's one costume that needs updated," please leave the industry now.

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The irony here -- that word again! -- is that Havok's original costume is literally timeless. There is absolutely nothing about it that ties it to any particular epoch. Yet those who felt it was their mandate to "update" the design shoveled in all the elements that were "hot" at Just That Moment, making a costume that was almost instantly out of date!

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Talk about creating havok!  (sorry!)

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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 12:51pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

Wow, great !
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Posted: 13 August 2011 at 1:33pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

I think just about the worst update was the "Goblyn Prince" shredded costume he ended up wearing the "Inferno" story line.

I think Mark Silvestri designed this, but whoever it was has much to answer for...

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Geeze! The Goblyn Queen's lower region is a little overexposed don't you think?
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