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Stephen Churay
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I wouldn't worry about that very much JB. Years from now, scholars
will look upon them and think you were going through your Moebius
phase. In fact, there are a few sketches, of yours, that look to be from
an imagined future, that are very Moebius like in there dress. The
single line weight just kinda re-enforces that.
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I don't know if these are intended to be of a piece or not, but I think
they could be.
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John Byrne
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There's no single theme to those pieces, except stylistically. The third one, in fact, is a revisiting of Asimov's FOUNDATION trilogy, which I started to illustrate when in my teens -- ie, at a time when the project was far beyond my talents. (No, no pages survive that I am aware of.) Those doodles were done a few years ago when I was rereading the books.
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Thanks for responding, JB. I haven't read
those in 20 years. Might have to revisit.
Those pieces may not be related to a
singular idea, but I think if there's ever
a story that involves them, I'd like to
read it.
I don't know if you could do a book using
a "dead" line but I think it could work
with a futuristic setting.
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John Byrne
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I don't know if you could do a book using a "dead" line…•• I could, but it would either have to be black and white, or have a very skilled colorist.
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--- First, and most obvious, the use of a "dead" line, with vary little variation in thickness along its length.---JB
It's probably a by-product of the diminutive size of the reproduction in "The Art of John Byrne" but the following piece was a heavy influence on me and to a large degree it was the fact that the form did the speaking and not the line. I've played around with 'Dead-line' work quite a lot on the back of these drawings and (it must be said) the look of the B&W's from animation cells.
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---I could, but it would either have to be black and white, or have a very skilled colorist.---JB
Yeah and then the colourist becomes as important as the 'inker' would have been when the line's translation into printed form -really- counted.
Leaving so much white space and or little information about the direction of light (oft hinted at through line thickness variation) put a lot of decision making in the hands of a colourist. And one could not presume that the colourist will happen upon the same resolution as the artist intended!
Is it a consideration that you might resolve this by colouring yourself?
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Drawing with a "dead" line requires thinking in layers, even more than when a more brush-like line is used. The farther from the "camera," the thinner the line.
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---I could, but it would either have to be black and white, or have a very skilled colorist.---JBIs it a consideration that you might resolve this by colouring yourself? •• Aside from that being a lot of work, I still don't trust my colorblindness!
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---Aside from that being a lot of work, I still don't trust my colorblindness!---JB
I wonder if using a tone might resolve this then?
Something (I feel you handled very, very well on the Duo-tone paper). Maybe some sort of balance between the dead line work and a tone application of some method. Then there would -less- reliance on the colourist.
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I've always enjoyed the wash technique
used for the old Marvel magazines.
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Well, JB, if you ever decide you are done with the American market, the European market will welcome you with open arms.
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There's a European colorist who colored THE INCAL. He's listed on
Humanoids website simply as "Val". He'd be really great for this type
of look. Here in the States there's always Dave Stewart who, IMO is
about the best there is at coloring just about anything.
I realize this is all simply speculation and at this point wishful thinking.
But for some reason I get a kick playing arm chair editor.
My apologies if this is taking things to far.
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