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Brennan Voboril Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 February 2012 at 9:49pm | IP Logged | 1
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I've never understood why Reagan backed the UK in the first Malvinas war.
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Stuart Vandal Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 02 July 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 143
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Posted: 29 February 2012 at 4:12am | IP Logged | 2
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Because Argentina invaded and occupied foreign soil without provocation. And I note your use of "first." Unless Argentina tries to invade again, something they've said they would not do, there shouldn't be a "second."
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 February 2012 at 2:01pm | IP Logged | 3
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Malvinas war---------------------- Falkland's war, please. Why would you refer to it by the name used by a military junta that made thousands of political opponents disappear in its time?
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Valmor J. Pedretti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 February 2012 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | 4
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Curiously, Pink Floyd's Roger Waters just said in an interview that the Malvinas should belong to Argentina. He's very ashamed of UK's past colonialism.
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Stuart Vandal Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 February 2012 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | 5
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And his opinion counts because...? The only people whose opinion counts are the people who live there. As for colonialism, I won't argue about the evils of it - but let's not forget Portugal (who colonised Brazil) and Spain (who colonised Argentina) did it too. But this isn't colonialism - as previously stated, Britain does not have any colonies any more. They are all independent - any that have remained part of the British crown or Commonwealth or stayed tied to Britain have done so by choice (and are free to change that status any time they want to do so), and those that preferred to become republics, leave the Commonwealth or cut ties with Britain got to do that too.
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Neil Lindholm Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 February 2012 at 11:21pm | IP Logged | 6
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Does Roger Waters explain his reasoning? I don't think I have ever read an argument that justifies the Argentinean claim. Other than it is ours and screw what the people actually want.
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Brennan Voboril Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 March 2012 at 2:22am | IP Logged | 7
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Peter sorry I call them the Malvinas.
As far as a junta, the history of the British Empire outshines the Argentine junta's in that regard many times over doesn't it?
My belief is Reagan violated the Monroe Doctrine by supporting Thatcher.
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Neil Lindholm Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 March 2012 at 3:35am | IP Logged | 8
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Care to elaborate your opinions Brennan? Do you support a forceful invasion of the Falklands against the wishes of the current residents and if so, what do you think the Argentinian government should do with them? Arrest, forcefully deport, or just shoot them? Or do you call them the Malvinas just to be provocotive?
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 March 2012 at 4:31am | IP Logged | 9
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No nation has a perfect history, there are many examples of lots of nations doing bad things. Not that those of us today should feel bad about that, we can't be held responsible for something that happened before we were born.
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Neil Lindholm Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 March 2012 at 4:36am | IP Logged | 10
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Sean Penn is getting involved.
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Location: England Posts: 11247
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Posted: 01 March 2012 at 6:16am | IP Logged | 11
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Roger Waters has expensive concert tickets to sell in a recssion,hence him opening his gob.
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 March 2012 at 6:35am | IP Logged | 12
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QUOTE:
Roger Waters has expensive concert tickets to sell in a recssion,hence him opening his gob. |
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How true that is, Bill.
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