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Brian Burnham
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I never cared for Venom. Nor Carnage.
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John Byrne
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…I will take the Kirby version of the Hulk's body proportions over almost everyone else and their interpretations.•• Which Kirby version? This one... 
…or the one who can don a fedora and a trenchcoat and sit in a normal seat in a civilian airliner, as he did in that very issue?
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Garry Porter II
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…or the one who can don a fedora and a trenchcoat and sit in a normal seat in a civilian airliner, as he did in that very issue?
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That is the Kirby version of the Hulk that I like JB. The one where he can comfortably sit in a normal civilian airliner ....or a taxi cab, and where a fedora hat clad in a trench coat.
What got me to thinking like this was reading comics over the span of the last 20 years(starting for me, in the 90's where this was painfully blatant) where a number of "hot" flavor of the month artists grossly misinterpreted the Hulk's body proportions, imo.
I feel they drew the Hulk with way too many veins, and gave him steroid muscles. And, if that was not bad enough they elevated his height. Over the years, I read these Hulk stories, but wondered why I could not really get into them.
This all culminated a few years ago, when I read a story, and I saw where one artist interpreted the Hulk as being(in my mind anyway) really tall, and grabbing either one or two fully grown men with his hands, and covered their bodies by holding them with his hands also. After seeing that, I gave up on the Hulk......and he is one of my favorites.
Then, shortly after, I happened upon a reprint of the Hulk by Jack Kirby and Stan Lee. Seeing Kirby draw that version of the Hulk was confirmation for me that most of these new generation artists were overdoing the Hulk's body proportions imo.
And, not to mention, the story was great too.
The way I feel about it, Kirby's first version of the Hulk was human looking. And Banner having the frail frame he did, and he being used as the source material also, I thought the body proportions from Kirby concerning the Hulk were good in that first story.
After all, people do not realize the Hulk IS Bruce Banner.
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Garry Porter II
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And, a slight correction everyone. I let a mistake slip by me. In my second sentence of my first statement the "where a fedora clad in a trench coat"
The "where" should be "wear".
Sorry about that.
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Wallace Sellars
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I like seeing the Hulk drawn as a massive, slab of a creature.
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Kip Lewis
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I remember when this teen saw a picture of Grendal and said, "Venom
rip-off." Didn't seem to like it when we told him Grendal came first.
Edited by Kip Lewis on 05 May 2012 at 5:17pm
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Garry Porter II
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I remember when this teen saw a picture of Grendal and said, "Venom
rip-off. Didn't seem to like it when we told him Grendal came first.
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That is hilarious Kip.
And indicative of the lack of comics history a lot of folks seem to have nowadays.
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Kip Lewis
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Gary, this was about 15 years ago.
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Bill Catellier
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I enjoyed Venom in his early years. A villain with motivation. Hated when Marvel used his popularity to push him into a hero type role. Worse yet when they dumped Brock for the Scorpion. Not really sure what's happened since.
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Nathan Greno
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Love him or hate him, Venom is a pretty major accomplishment -- he has become one of Spider-Man's most famous villains. Think of all the Spider-villains that have been created over the years... Venom's popularity is pretty impressive given the strength of Spider-Man's Rogue Gallery.
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Nathan Greno
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JRJR handles the character really well imho
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Nathan Greno
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Uh...
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