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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 8:43am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

20" x 30" Commission Request - Avengers vs. Hulk

He would like a piece in the vein of the 2008 30 X 40'' " Avengers + FF vs Hulk" piece:

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Please do make it a night scene with "heavy blacks" on the buildings.

(After scanning, I realized I'd missed the "T" on Thor's belt buckle. Fixed on the original!)

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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 8:55am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Beautiful!  I can feel Hank's pain from here. The inking on Thor's upper arm looks really good. 
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 8:55am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Wow! This is one sweet commission!
My fave of 2012, so far!

Always love to see JB draw the Avengers!
Cool how Cap is blocking the Hulk's blow with
his shield.
Thanks for posting this JB :)
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 8:59am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Cool how Cap is blocking the Hulk's blow with his shield.

A bit of "artistic license" employed, there. Technically, Cap could take a hit from the Hulk, on his shield, and not even feel it. It's an element of the shield that is interesting conceptual, but can be kind of a drama-killer!

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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 9:21am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

What a jaw-dropper! I love the detail on the Hulk. This commission is a feast for the eyes.
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Benjamin Ledbetter
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 9:26am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Thor has never been one of my favorites, but my eyes are drawn to him on the page when John draws him.  This image is no exception!  I also keep looking at Hulk's foot, which is just really rich in details.  Great commission.
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 9:38am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Amazing detail on the Hulk.

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Christos Seros
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 10:02am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Oh My!!!

How do I make this mine????

Amazing work JB, congrats to the commissioner.

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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 10:09am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

"A bit of "artistic license" employed, there. Technically, Cap could take a hit from the Hulk, on his shield, and not even feel it. It's an element of the shield that is interesting conceptual, but can be kind of a drama-killer!"

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Great commission. The space in the page is ALL packed with action!!


By the way, about Captain's shield, recently I've seen him be thrown away by the impact of Cyclops beam, which IS kinetic energy (right?)... In theory, wouldn't Cap just stand calmly still, taking the beam behind the shield, or am I evaluating the situation wrong?



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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 10:22am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

By the way, about Captain's shield, recently I've seen him be thrown away by the impact of Cyclops beam, which IS kinetic energy (right?)... In theory, wouldn't Cap just stand calmly still, taking the beam behind the shield, or am I evaluating the situation wrong?

According to the mythology, Cap's shield absorbs/deflects ALL energy directed against it. I once postulated he could jump out of a plane, standing on his shield, and the impact would be absorbed, not passed on to him. (There are other considerations, but. . . )

So, yes, Cap should be able to take the full force of Cyclops' beam without feeling it.

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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 10:29am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Eventhough I believe his body should  be smaller, I love the TEXTURE of the Hulk's skin on this. 

This is how the Hulk's skin should be drawn in every issue by every artist in today's industry:  very rough or coarse.

By the way, another great one by JB!!
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Dan Marcoux
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 10:42am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

The big scan is now in the gallery...

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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 10:44am | IP Logged | 13 post reply

And I just got back from checking it! Thanks, Dan!
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 10:55am | IP Logged | 14 post reply

Really love the inks on this one! Great job!
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 10:58am | IP Logged | 15 post reply

As much as I loved the Avengers movie last night...this still tops it!
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 11:07am | IP Logged | 16 post reply

As much as I loved the Avengers movie last night...this still tops it!

A friend who also saw the Avengers movie yesterday insisted on explaining to me why the costumes "had to be" changed. Why Thor, especially, could not wear the "simple" costume Kirby designed.

As I was drawing this piece, Thor in particular, I once again found myself asking "Why not?"

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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 12:01pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply

JB - I think it's epidemic in the comic book industry as well.  There are very few re-designs that were somewhat necessary and well-executed. (Wally Wood's Daredevil, Steve Ditko's Iron Man, the black/blue & red Captain Mar-Vell and Jim Starlin's Adam Warlock are a few of the exceptions), but there are countless cases of artists redesigning characters  that already worked visually (from the X-Men's change to individual designs to sales stunts like Spider-Man's black costume).

While I don't mind changes to characters like Iron Man (technology marches on) or the Wasp or She-Hulk (who have no single, established look), On the other hand, I don't think we need to see "feathers" and pouches on Captain America, a modernized Hercules, overly-elaborate costumes for Namor, more "authentic" looks for the Marvel gunfighters,  or a different look for the Nova corps every time a new Nova series begins.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | 18 post reply

I saw the Avengers movie last night, and there's no reason the characters as
they are depicted here couldn't have been used. In fact, that would have
heightened my enjoyment of the movie.
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | 19 post reply

Commission day, or as I like to call it, my day of jealousy! I've kind of run out of words to describe these wonderful images, so I'll just say it's great!
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 12:16pm | IP Logged | 20 post reply

Wow, once again a fantastic piece. I'm sure viewing the actual 20" x 30" commission is even more jaw dropping. I'm patiently saving up my "pennies" for a commission but this sure put a strain on the "patently" part of it.
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 12:56pm | IP Logged | 21 post reply

Great composition and frame filling as always.  Inking has a "fine" quality to it.  I'm particularly drawn to the Hulk's right foot as he braces himself to deliver the backfist.  So much storytelling being delivered with only images as only JB can do.  Congrats to the lucky commissioner.
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 22 post reply

"I once postulated he could jump out of a plane, standing on his shield, and the impact would be absorbed, not passed on to him. (There are other considerations, but. . . )"

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In AVENGERS WEST COAST # 48, you had him jump from the 20th floor of a building crouched atop his shield and suffering "less of a shock to [his] body than just stepping off a curb!"

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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

Another very nice commission. I love the Avengers with the Hulk.
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

Is that Rick Jones waving out the window?
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Posted: 05 May 2012 at 1:56pm | IP Logged | 25 post reply

I love the texture of the Hulk's skin. I really love how the ledge
crumbles under Hulk's foot. I've also really grown to love the way you
draw the hulk's head. It makes him feel more like an early Hulk that's
still a bit brutish. The sheen on Iron Man's armor is great and the rest
of the Avengers are spot on perfect. Excellent job JB!
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