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The first would be icky, to be sure. The degree of ick in the second depends on how married you are to various retcons. As originally portrayed, Cap was NOT "Billy grown up". He was a separate individual.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I hate thinking about superheroes/villains sex lives.

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Do you feel that romantic interests like Lois Lane have no place in a Superman comic?

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Those are not the same thing.  I can accept that Reed and Sue are married with kids without need of seeing them consumate their vows or conceive on panel.  Even fictional people deserve their privacy.

I, of course, argued that floors are something we can pretty much take for granted. I asked if he felt that from now on all scenes should take place in front of mirrors, since if readers cannot see the BACKS of the characters, they won't know they have backs! And, somewhat less sarcastically, I said if there WASN'T a floor, that was definitely something I would show.

Shooter's Whim of Iron was in full vigor tho, so this became a RULE, and I started drawing a thick black edge across the bottom of panels whenever I wanted to do my border-as-floor shot. This also got some discussion going around the office, as to what ELSE we needed to show, lest readers not know it was there. Did we need to make sure the characters were shown eating, or readers would assume they were starving to death? And if they eat, did we need to show them using the bathroom? And how explicit did that need to be? Don't want the reader thinking it was a onezie when it was a twozie!

Anyway. . .   not, it seems, sex has entered this realm. Readers must be SHOWN that the characters have sex, or it will be assumed that none of them have, ever. (The stork brings babies in the DC and Marvel universes!)

Speaking of babies -- another reason to be distressed about the Batman/Catwoman sex scene. Have you noticed how so many comicbook characters seem to know nothing at all about safe sex? If sex is so much as implied, pregnancy follows hard upon't.

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You know, they DID that.

No, I didn't.  It doesn't surprise me.  What does Stan think about these stories?

I guess they could do an arc where someone steals the Pym Particles and Janet is the one who goes insane.

Neil, here's the scene...

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It's my understanding Johns has disowned that scene, claiming it was actually the work of then-head honcho at Marvel, Bill Jemas.

You know, they DID that.

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What's sad is something I made up at the spur of the moment, that I was using as hyperbole, had in fact seen print and was supposed to be profound.  The creative juices were really flowing when they came up with that scene.

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If the scene was indeed the work of Bill Jemas, there would be no question of "let". This is, after all, the guy who decided HE was the one who should write Wolverine's origin.

Bill Jemas was also the "brains" behind "Marville":

-- And who said this about the then-new "Elektra" series, part of his "Bad Girls For Fanboys" initiative...

Bill Jemas: "...We have quite a few male readers who live in the basement of their parents' house in Queens. For them, an evening with Elektra is as good as it gets."

 *just saw a thread with my question answered