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Posted: 28 January 2013 at 7:06am | IP Logged | 1  

After complaining about the decline in quality of the PITT brush pens, I decided to try to DO something about it, and in some recent inking tried slicing the end off the nib with a razor, like this:

Some of you may have already discovered this. By cutting off the tip at an angle, a new sharp tip is created, and brush-like strokes can be coaxed from of it without too much effort, thus extending the life of the nib.

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I've heard this from other sources too, great suggestion.

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Excellent idea JB! I'll have to try that myself. I also plan to work on the
problem by calling Faber-Castell and complain. I'll let you guys know
how it went. If they seemed to really respond maybe we can get
others to do the same. If enough people complain, maybe they'll
create or go back to, a better quality nib. I'm also planning on picking
up The Sakura Micron brush tip pen, today! I'll let you know what I
think of it as a replacement. Although I really have come to enjoy the
ink Faber-Castell uses. That stuff is blacker than black.
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I also plan to work on the problem by calling Faber-Castell and complain.

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I emailed them about this problem some time back, and got no response.

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Not a bad tip about the tip, JB.

I might try that in the near future. I've pretty much given up all hope on the
PITT Brushes altogether and am slowly working my way through the few that
I have left.


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Stephen, I hope you have better luck with the Sakura that I did. I felt that it
lasted as long as the PITT.

The best 'fake' brush tip that I've found out on the market has been the
Pentel Brush pen that takes cartridges,
I've had one for over ten years and it's still going strong (I've had to buy new
cartridges along the way) and it can handle a fair bit of abuse and still keep
its shape.
The only downside is that the ink does lift from the paper if it's been put
down in large areas. Best to define the black areas, then erase pencils and
fill in with something else.

Still, above all, I do prefer traditional Brush and Ink.
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Brush and ink do work best. The great thing about the faux brush tip
pens is the cleanliness. There isn't any chance of spilling ink, you don't
have to clean brushes and you don't have to worry about the ink being
too heavy on the paper.
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Never thought about that!
I'll sure give it a try!
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Are the PITT brush nibs able to be removed and rotated?

Jerry's Artarama in West Hartford has a ton of replacement nibs. A
whole shelf of different sizes.

(The Pentel brush that Chris G mentioned is brilliant. I own two, and
they never let me down. Bought a pack of 6 replacement cartridges for
$5)
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Are the PITT brush nibs able to be removed and rotated?

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Yes.

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An interesting thought.  I never even knew that you could cut the worn nib off like that and keep the brush tip effect.  I ought to try it.
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That's some good advice and I'm going to try it. I already refill my pens as you suggested in another thread long ago, the art supply store is far from where I live and getting more for your buck is good.
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My art supply store is currently out of the Sakura Micron brush tip
pens. The did have a set of Sharpie brush tips. They might be handy
for large pieces but you would gave to work extra hard to get a fine
line like a fresh PITT pens. So there a no go.

I've never seen a Pentel pen in the stores. I'll have to have my LAS
order one with a pack of replacement cartridges.
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I belive both Hobby Lobby and Michael's craft store carry the pentel pen. I have 3. 
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I haven't seen the Sharpie Brush tips. I might have to go on a bit of an
expedition.

For those interested in the Pentel pens, stick with the ink they supply. The
pens don't fair too well if you try to improvise... :-{
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I did that a couple of times and it worked well.
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I haven't seen the Sharpie Brush tips. I might have to go on a bit of
expedition.

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Chris, unless they make a fine tip one I didn't see, I'd consider it a
waste of time.

IMO, these would be great to cover large areas or doing line work on
something big that you want to see from far away. They don't do
subtile very well.
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To those who want to try cutting the nibs, also keep in mind to start as close to the tip as possible, so you can make several cuts on the same nib. Obviously, the slice will become wider as you progress down the nib, but the edge remains sharp enough to keep the line controllable.

And it beats throwing out a pen that still has plenty of ink in it!

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Stephen Churay
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JB, do you think an X-Acto knife would do the trick?
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JB, do you think an X-Acto knife would do the trick?

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Anything really sharp. The brush felt (?) is necessarily soft, so the blade needs to be able to cut without tearing.

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I tried this (cutting the tip of the PITT brush pen) a few years ago, JB, based on some advice you gave me about cutting the very tip off of a "real" brush (using either a razor or a match). It works pretty well, plus you can use both ends of the nib to get more use out of it.

Thanks for the advice!

MPH

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I love my Pentel FP10 as well and love that it's refillable!
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We are very sorry and concerned to hear that you are experiencing a problem.

The Faber-Castell PITT artist pens are one of the premium products that we offer in our Art & Graphic Brand. Your overall experience with the product is very important to us.

We’ve read each of the posts on this thread, and we would like to make the situation right for you.  The quality of our brand is not taken lightly and as we are looking into this issue, we would like to send you other PITT artist pen products, so that you may enjoy working with them in the meantime.

Please contact us at consumer@fabercastell.com<mailto:consumer@fabercastell.com> with your mailing address. Our Consumer Relations department will be processing replacement packages for you and will be happy to answer any additional questions that you may have.

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My experience with Faber-Castell has almost always been, to borrow a phrase, the finest kind. I take great pleasure in telling people the story of the mechanical pencil my father bought in 1956, and passed on to me some ten years later. When that pencil finally gave up the ghost after fifty years of service -- having been the pencil with which I drew all my issues of UNCANNY X-MEN, FANTASTIC FOUR, ALPHA FLIGHT and most of SUPERMAN -- I dropped a line to Faber-Castell, thinking they might enjoy hearing of such long and productive use. To my amazement, they actually offered to repair the pencil! I declined, gratefully, and instead had the "old boy" mounted and framed, and it hangs in a prominent place on my Studio wall.

I have had mostly equal joy from the PITT pens, without complaint until... something changed in the brush pens a few years back. The others remain perfect for my needs, but the problem with the brush pens does not seem something that can be rectified with "replacements".

As this thread reveals, my loyalty to Faber-Castell continues, and with the method indicated in my first post I have found a "work around" for the brush pen problem. But new pens are not a solution -- I buy new pens on a monthly basis. The change in the nib seems to be in all the brushes.

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There is a brand of pens that sells replacement nibs -- I'm not sure of the name, but you can replace the tip when worn.   Is this an option for FabreCastell?  Has anyone tried contacting their sales dept to purchase just a bag of tips?



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MAJOR kudos to Faber-Castell for the response! It's one thing to call
a company and voice your praise, opinion or complaint, it's a whole
different thing for them to become a member of the forum you belong
to just to acknowledge a complaint.

I agree JB. I've given up other pens for the PITT line. Currently I use
the XS, S, M, F and Brush tips. All of the other nibs holt up very well.
The pens give a really good even line and there black ink is BLACK.

Still, I've never had a brand of art supply that I've felt I should have
loyalty to. If I like the product, I used it. If I found, what I thought was
a better product from a different manufacturer, I switched.

A company showing they care about there customers means a lot.
Especially today when it seems so many companies really don't care. I
look forward to hearing there response, and am now a Faber-Castell
loyalist.
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