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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 01 February 2013 at 11:30am | IP Logged | 1  

Wow!

Rob Liefeld's ICONS

Well, it's interesting to read Liefeld's take on the formation of Image, but why does he think that a general audience would really care about that part of comic book history?


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Because he's Rob Liefeld and he was in a Levi's commercial.
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There are plenty of movies--any number of documentaries come to mind, for one thing--that don't sound like they'd appeal to a general audience.  You just have to find whatever part of the story is universal and figure out how to make your audience relate to it. 

Rob Liefeld was a teenage comic book fan who was in the right place at the right time and became a millionaire overnight through his work at Marvel, took a big risk when he formed Image comics, became even more successful, and his fan base very aggressively turned on him, his friends and business partners fell out with him...I think you've got at least as much interesting material to work with as you did with The Social Network.   
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The infamous Rob Liefeld

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Nice to see that for once that word is used appropriately.  One of my biggest linguistic pet peeves is the use of 'infamous' as if it were directly synonymous with 'famous'.
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They made great hash of this over at the Comics Journal site - my favorite line being "We have to form Image Comics. That way, instead of a plantation hiring us to write and draw comics for them, we can become the people who hire other people to write and draw comics for us, because that would be better, for reasons."

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The infamous Rob Liefeld

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Thom Price: Nice to see that for once that word is used appropriately. One of my biggest linguistic pet peeves is the use of 'infamous' as if it were directly synonymous with 'famous'.

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Shades of that bit from 'Three Amigos!':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egLjBsK9K8o



As for that script preview, I'd seen it a while back. Wow, Rob - you really seem dead-set on burning those last remaining bridges, huh?

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 Andrew wrote:
...I think you've got at least as much interesting material to work with as you did with The Social Network...


True, but pretty much everyone knows what Facebook is.
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Matt Damon might make a passable Liefeild. Can't see Pine at all.
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Matt Damon as Rob Liefeld:

"Rob Liefeld...  Rob Liefeld... Rob Liefeld..."

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True, but pretty much everyone knows what Facebook is.

Everyone knows what comic books are.  Or who Spider-Man and the X-Men are.  That's easy enough to explain to the man on the street.  "These guys became millionaires drawing Spider-Man, but at the height of their popularity, they walked away from that guaranteed paycheck and risked everything to start their own comic book company." 
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Andrew: ...I think you've got at least as much interesting material to work with as you did with The Social Network.

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The creator of Facebook came off in his movie as a wickedly smart pioneer leader/user who chased his own goals at all costs.

But Rob Liefeld is a poor craftsman with little creative spark to boast of who earned millions by being caught in someone else's whirlwind.

Not quite the same thing.
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I was under the impression that the screenplay wasn't just about
Liefeld, but the whole "Image Gang."
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The Social Network was about the whole Facebook gang too.

But every story has a main character and Leifeld's pages leave no
doubt who the main character of Icons is supposed to be.

Plus the notion that Image artists risked it all has little basis in fact. It
wasn't their money and the artists knew they could work again at the
big two if things didn't work.

That comment posted by Dave Kopperman is Awesome!!
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This is a story that at best could be turned into an HBO movie. More than likely it would be a basic cable tv movie. You might make a major motion picture about the start of Marvel Comics or Siegel and Schuster but not a small company like Image. I honestly don't see mainstream interest in the start up story of this company. The real story is how they became the number one company and then lost it as quickly as they gained it with bad business practices and ego clashes. If anyone can be that introspective to tell that story, you may have a chance at a major motion picture. Hollywood likes a tale of success, failure and a come back. Robert Kirkman is what is keeping that company afloat. Hard to tell the come back story when someone other than the original guys saved the company. 
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While it would be both awesome and extreme to give Liefeld complete creative control over a major motion picture, the core story's pretty interesting, and it ties into Marvel, which is a very visible and major brand as far as Hollywood's concerned.  Toss in some early 1990s nostalgia, get some professional screenwriters on it, add a Stan Lee cameo...you don't need a lot of fancy sets or special effects, either. 

Plus the notion that Image artists risked it all has little basis in fact. It
wasn't their money and the artists knew they could work again at the
big two if things didn't work.


I disagree, but I'm sure that's how the story would be marketed.  Liefeld has McFarlane making his "plantation" references about 40 times in three pages, so it's clear that they see it as a little guy fighting the system movie.


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Why would there be a Stan Lee cameo in the story of Image? He wasn't really at Marvel in any direct way during those years, and had nothing to do with Image.
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Americans are still hurting from the deceptive practices of Wall Street. Do they really need a movie that glorifies another kid that got rich by gaming the system instead of contributing anything of any worth? 
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Liefeld should re-work this as a graphic novel.
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I've said this on another forum but I really want to chip in to Kickstarter for this. I want to see it made as written, as I think it could be one of the funniest things ever made.

 Easy E From script wrote:
I'm loving me some Youngblood bro.
 
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Why would there be a Stan Lee cameo in the story of Image? 

Why not?  It wouldn't make sense in a really accurate version of the story, but it wouldn't be out of place in the Easy-E, Christian-Bale-IS-Todd-McFarlane world of Liefeld's script.
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Why is the song "Tell Me Lies" popping into my head?
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I don't think this is a movie because there is no ending - there is nothing accomplished.  They leave high paying jobs to start their own line, and they get better paying jobs selling books that don't really have lasting cultural impact.  Their success is mostly financial, because from every other perspective, they contributed to a deadly speculator boom fueled by their own cult of personality.  It's telling that he wants to do an Image movie about the people involved rather than a movie about one of the characters he created.

It's always been impossible for me to take Image seriously because they were dumb enough to name their company "Image", opening themselves to a constant reminder that we should not put image over substance. 

A movie about books is not an easy thing to pull off -- a movie has to be visual.  "The Social Network" had the benefit of an interesting personal conflict and a familiar product.  Image has neither - they left comfort for comfort, and didn't help the industry along the way. And the characters didn't cross over to the mainstream.

The first comic book movie in this vein will be the Stan Lee story.  His collaborations with Kirby and Ditko has conflict and drama, and the work they produced is well in the mainstream and very identifiable.


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Stan could look into the camera at the end and shake his head in an ironic manner,cameo sorted.
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A well made film based on the formation of image could certainly be an
interesting one even for general audiences--- but if it were truly an
honest account, McFarlane, Liefeld, et al would not be the "heroes"
despite their success.

The screenwriter would need to do hard research on the comic book
industry to fully flesh out what actually went wrong and what went right.
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It's a wonder Rob Liefeld never established a career as a screenwriter.

Oh, wait -- no, it's not.
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