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John Byrne
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Posted: 27 September 2014 at 6:41am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Here's a little something the Greg Kirkmans of the world may appreciate:

I was looking for a shot of Captain Kirk holding his head at a particular angle, with a particular expression, and it occurred to me I might find it in "What are Little Girls Made Of?" So I started clicking thru the available online images, and noticed something.

Take a look at the top of the door frame in these images. (Remember, it's the door frame you're looking at!)

See the notch? Well, the door that Andrea is walking out of is in Kirk's cell, while the one behind her in the other shot is in the living quarters. A neat little redress (and a classic example of "shoot to the corner") to turn one set into another.

And if anyone is wondering, I checked, and there's no such notch in the other doors seen in the episode, so it wasn't a fault in the framework used to guide the plasterers.

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Posted: 27 September 2014 at 6:42am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I liked your Batman/Superman story Generations that didn't ignore the passage of time.

You may have liked it for the wrong reason! One of the mandates of GENERATIONS was to demonstrate why aging the characters in real time is not such a good idea!

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Posted: 27 September 2014 at 9:36am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Here's a little something the Greg Kirkmans of the world may
appreciate:
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Yeah, I never cease to be amazed by how even the most simple
redress techniques can fool the viewer into thinking a set is more
expansive than it really is.

Heck, unless you start paying attention, even the ways in which the
usual Enterprise corridors were shot (and occasionally redressed)
gave the illusion of a labyrinthine series of corridors. An illusion created
with one straight hallway that intersected with one curved hallway, and
nothing else.
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Posted: 27 September 2014 at 10:02am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

An illusion created with one straight hallway that intersected with one curved hallway, and nothing else.

An illusion that left me convinced for years that Engineering was in the rear of the Primary Hull. All those shots of crewmen racing down that long curved corridor to arrive at the door to Scotty's domain!

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Posted: 27 September 2014 at 10:36am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

You may have liked it for the wrong reason! One of the mandates of GENERATIONS was to demonstrate why aging the characters in real time is not such a good idea!

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That makes me laugh!

But it is also the great thing about art.  Everyone brings a little of themself to what they are reading/studying.  And I've always liked those "imaginary tales" (as if they aren't ALL imaginary!) outside of regular continuity.  So that's how I saw it.

I liked the characters aging, having children, dying (with the exception of Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent in your story).  It got weirder and weirder and weirer the further into the future it got.  Love it.  One of my favorite all-time JB stories.
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How can you post pictures of Sherry Jackson as Andrea (back and front!) and expect us to notice and focus on the notches of a door frame. HOW?

It's impossible, man. My eyes won't go up that far.

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Posted: 27 September 2014 at 11:14am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I'm still trying to find the door in those photos...
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Posted: 27 September 2014 at 11:27am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Y'all know Sherry Jackson posed nude for Playboy, right?  :-)
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Posted: 27 September 2014 at 11:56am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Y'all know Sherry Jackson posed nude for Playboy, right? :-)

Yes, and I almost wish she hadn't. Almost.

Now think about her being 72.

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Whenever I see sci-fi doors/doorways like that, I think of the line from Forbidden Planet about judging the shape of the inhabitants by the shape of their doors.
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Whenever I see sci-fi doors/doorways like that, I think of the line from Forbidden Planet about judging the shape of the inhabitants by the shape of their doors.

Don Rosa did a wonderful drawing, years ago, showing the Krell as little Casper Milquetoast types, but with huge handlebar mustaches! Hence the shape of their doors!

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Occurred to me this morning, that with all the lascivious statuary out there tempting the fanboys, so far as I know no one has done an Andrea. I mean, seriously! If they can do a Gorn. . . !!!
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