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John Byrne
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I used to have a set of those insignia, bought from Roddenberry's company when I was about 19. Kept them in a clear plastic box in which my mother had received some earrings.

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Oh, man! A real collector's item, there. It's been speculated that the earliest waves of those patches were actual leftover stock from the show, and not reproductions. They may not have necessarily been screenused, but they'd certainly be the next best thing.

I also bought a set of those insignia for a high school bud who was a big TREK fan, like me. His mother pronounced them "childish".

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Even then, you can still see leftover pilot uniform on both men and women in early first season episodes.

Very noticeably on the young woman Charlie Evans uses his powers to age into an old lady.

That was to avoid an old lady in a micro-miniskirt, I would imagine!

Tho. with more mix-and-match, the tunic has a black collar.

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John, How long does it usually take to learn what the sales numbers were?
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John, How long does it usually take to learn what the sales numbers were?

With the direct sales market, where most everything is pre-ordered, publishers known almost instantly how a book has sold. For them, anyway. Sell-thru, which is how the books then move thru the shops, is another matter, but not one of great concern.

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Realized this morning there's really no need, given the structure of my tale, to change to color of Spock's tunic. Too bad, since it turned out to be so easy to do!

So, the task is to turn just his collar blue, on the second pilot uniform. A bit more "work intensive" but still pleased with the results.

For those of you wondering what all this is about, in STAR TREK lore the original pilot, produced in 1964, became a flashback to "thirteen years ago" in a two part episode for the 1966 season. This was made possible largely by Nimoy's face having fleshed out somewhat since his "starving actor" days. There was also a change in Spock's hair, and the thickness of his eyebrows. So, by picking up heads from the second pilot and transplanting them, I can create a "time passing" effect that is subtle but, I hope, appreciated by other Trekkies.

Here's the original shot, for an idea of what's going on here. . .

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Charlie is wearing Kirk's wraparound in brown?!?
I guess that option was available back when beige was in fashion? Well, beige is still in use on the Antares, but they have a different insignia, and this has the Enterprise command badge... a Kirk hand-me-down? That appears to increase the number of Kirk shots you could use in a transition era!

Yeah, I'm no Greg Kirkman. I never really noticed before. (I had never really thought about the Klingons and Romulans wearing black tunics under their uniforms until the dramatic spotting of the blacks in Romulans: Pawns of War.)
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Tempted to cast Hagan Beggs as the navigator, for a wee in-joke. (Beggs played the crippled Christopher Pike in "The Menagerie".)

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I don't know for sure if this is correct, but IMDB has Sean Kenney as the injured Pike, but Hagan Beggs playing Lt. Hansen in the same episode(s).

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Correct, Brandon.
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Curious -- I wonder where I picked up the Beggs name.

Seeing the two side by side, it is rather obvious that it was Kenney under the Pike makeup.

Beggs

Kenney

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Meanwhile. . .

Even tho there has been no official go-ahead for a second photonovel, I can't keep my brain from playing with concepts. There's one particular story I came up with years ago that I'm thinking will probably be the second book, if there is a second book.

And, to keep my brain from frying itself, I decided to do a little Photoshop tinkering. The story I have in mind takes place on an Earth colony, but I wanted to stretch a bit beyond merely recycling some of the matte shots and Los Angeles locales that doubled for other worlds on TOS. There will be some of that, sure, since that's part of the fun, but I also wanted a bit more.

So, yesterday I did some "building", and this was the result:

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Bit of Trivia: I was looking over the list of actors who approved the use of their likenesses, and neither Alfred Ryder nor Jeanne Bal, nor their estates, had done so. So perhaps it is a good thing that I did not finish the adaptation of "The Man Trap" that started this thread!
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Very cool city, JB!  A future look, yet realistic.





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