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Marc Baptiste
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Stephen,
They just released a new volume of that Man of Steel TPB series. With JB's wonderful Superman/Wonder Woman team-up cover. Did you get a copy? Amazon has a good price for it. I own all the originals, but as with all things JB, I also buy the trades.
Marc
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Stephen Churay
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Stephen,
They just released a new volume of that Man of Steel TPB series.
With JB's wonderful Superman/Wonder Woman team-up cover. Did
you get a copy? Amazon has a good price for it. I own all the
originals, but as with all things JB, I also buy the trades.
Marc
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I current have volumes 1-6. I still need to pick up volumes 7&8. I'm
hoping they'll do one more volume finishing out JB's run on
SUPERMAN and his writing on ADV. OF SUPERMAN. It would be
nice if they also included the Mignola drawn issue with Silver Banshee.
JB drew her first and best but Mignola's take on the character was
interesting.
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Ian Penman
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In general terms I'm with you on the 'editorial fixing' of things, JB. I write a lot of music articles and reviews in the UK under the name of 'Ian Ravendale' (there being another music journalist called Ian Penman) and there was one particular editor who would just change things for no reason. I asked him why and he couldn't come up with an explanation, apart from available space. He had given me the number of words he wanted and I had written to that. He still kept cutting and changing so I counted the words of the tampered-with reviews (which was shorter than he'd told me) and wrote to that length. And he still kept doing it.
I bit my lip for a while but after a particularly senseless piece of editing I could take it no more and asked him to explain. He couldn't, just saying that 'all reviews are subject to editing'. IE, he was just doing it because he was doing it. That was it. I could take it no more and withdrew from the section of the mag that he was running.
Most of the other editors I work with are fine and are either very unobtrusive in what they change or correct errors. (I had Sao Paulo down as 'San Paulo' for example.) I have had the odd bit of information changed wrongly too, of course!
And no, editors never ask about changes. A big mistake when dealing with fiction (as you've detailed) as against the factual/opinion-lead journalism I write.
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Petter Myhr Ness
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8 issues into the new run, and the editors insert a reference to an event that our main character can't possibly have experienced. Fabulous work. If that reference hadn't been there, people would naturally have assumed that this was the first time Superman met Suberboy - which was part of the whole point.
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Andrew W. Farago
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I current have volumes 1-6. I still need to pick up volumes 7&8. I'm
hoping they'll do one more volume finishing out JB's run on
SUPERMAN and his writing on ADV. OF SUPERMAN. It would be
nice if they also included the Mignola drawn issue with Silver Banshee.
JB drew her first and best but Mignola's take on the character was
interesting.
I'm glad to hear that the Superman material from Action Comics Weekly is going to get a release sometime in the next year. I skipped over that 42-issue run entirely, and it's some of the only post-Crisis/pre-New-52 Superman I haven't read. It's "lost" Superman comics by Roger Stern! Yahoo!
I figure that Man of Steel has to run through the end of JB's run at this point. The Exiled paperback picks up not long after that ends, although it would be nice to get a Gangbuster volume to bridge the gap there. I've got all of these as single issues, but I like being able to grab a nice ten-issue run off the bookshelf when the mood strikes me.
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Thomas Moudry
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There should so be a Superman by John Byrne Omnibus.
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Andrew W. Farago
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I like the $20 paperback collections. The reproduction is just about the best that DC has. It's like an idealized version of newsprint, with white paper and a non-glossy finish, and it's the best these comics have ever looked.
I can't see myself buying those Marvel Omnibus books because I don't want to risk permanent injury every time I pull a sixty pound hardcover off my bookshelf.
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Stephen Churay
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I like the $20 paperback collections. The reproduction is just about
the best that DC has. It's like an idealized version of newsprint, with
white paper and a non-glossy finish, and it's the best these comics
have ever looked.
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That's exactly the way I feel about them as well. The only weak points
for me are the covers. They suffer in both artwork and design. Ordway
is a good artist but JB's writing and art really make up most of the run,
and I wish he could have done them. Especially the first volume which
was ALL JB!
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Luke Styer
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Stephen Robinson wrote:
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I don't know that that is a completely indefensible position. It seems roughly analogous to annoyance I feel when a latter day Star Trek episode ends with a press of the "reset button." If "it didn't happen" or "no one remembers," it can sometimes feel like nothing was really at stake in the story.
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Ray Brady
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JB drawing Legionnaires makes me a happy, happy fella. It doesn't happen often, but it never disappoints!
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Geoffrey Langford
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The Wolfman/Perez HISTORY OF DC UNIVERSE references Crisis, too. Even though the whole book is about the layout of the "new" DC Universe.
The "post-Crisis" CRISIS event was just a different event, things happened the same, but differently --- this new version was just never told -- except in a double page spread by Perez --- I was happy with that.
So reading the Superman thing about meeting Superboy, etc -- just added to the mystery for me -- "what really happened?" sort of thing.
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Vinny Valenti
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But everyone continued to constantly mention Barry Allen dying during Crisis,
which would seem to contradict nobody remembering the previous Wonder
Woman and Supergirl, no?
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