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Kevin Sharp
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I've been re-reading JB's SUPERMAN (main book) for the first time since the issues debuted. I got to this one & stumbled:Superman references meeting Superboy "a few months ago. But he went off into limbo at the end of the Crisis."
Isn't JB's Superman the "new earth" version of the character, while the former Earth 1 Superman is the one who experienced Crisis? How would this version have any knowledge/memory of Superboy Prime, limbo, etc? Thanks for any insight.
Edited by Kevin Sharp on 16 April 2014 at 10:11am
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John Byrne
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Editorial insertion! Once again, "fixing" something and making it WRONG.
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Charles Valderrama
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Since then, editorial has only gotten WORSE. *sigh*
Still, really miss JB's SUPERMAN run.
-C!
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Michael Casselman
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Incidents like this just raised the question of how much the Post-Crisis DCU remembered of the Pre-Crisis DCU and of the Crisis event itself. If he remembered a 'Superboy' ~ during the Crisis ~ it would have made sense for him to remember his female cousin as well. Although I don't recall it being satisfactorilly explained (although Roy Thomas tried to make some sense of it with the 'displaced energy' and 'wave' theory in All-Star Squadron and Young All-Stars), I just took it that the heroes were selectively 'mind-wiped' of certain per-Crisis DCU events and characters when the multiverse was merged into one.
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John Byrne
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CRISIS suffered from a very bad case of DC wanting to have it all ways. "We're cleaning house -- but we're not throwing anything out!"Too many fans in the wrong places.
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Stephen Robinson
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Some fans almost obsessively believe a story can't "count" unless it's
remembered by everyone. It's like the complaints about
GENERATIONS 3 -- a thrilling story, the heroes save the day, but no, it
doesn't count.
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Kevin Sharp
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Editorial insertion! Once again, "fixing" something and making it WRONG.
****
Thanks for solving the mystery. I thought I was totally misremembering & was ready to re-read CRISIS to make sense of this.
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How can something designed to simplify things be so darned confusing?
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John Byrne
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Editorial insertion! Once again, "fixing" something and making it WRONG.**** Thanks for solving the mystery. I thought I was totally misremembering & was ready to re-read CRISIS to make sense of this. •• A curse that has pursued me thru most of my career is editors "fixing" stuff without checking with me. If I put something in, or leave something out, they so rarely call me to find out what I had in mind. They just assume I got it wrong. This was especially true on HIDDEN YEARS, where the whole X-Office seemed to be working on the assumption that I had no knowledge of the X-Men, or even the Marvel Universe. Changes were made -- again, without checking with me -- that made things totally wrong and, of course, went out with my name in the credits box. So as far as readers were concerned, it WAS me who got things wrong. (Once upon a time I said that all editorial changes should be printed in blue ink, so the readers could know when the writer's/artist's intent had been altered.)
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Stephen Churay
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Kevin, The MOS trades actually contain the LOSH part of the story
that's in the add Nathan posted. Reading it helps to make sense of it
all, but not really. Also, I like Paul Levitz writing on the book but this
wasn't his best work. I'm not a huge LOSH fan so maybe you might
get more enjoyment out of it than I did.
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