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Eric Ladd
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That's where I grew up. Actually graduated from Kennesaw State University. In a town where gun ownership is mandatory this happens. So much for the 'guns prevent massacres' theory. I hope nobody I know is dead.
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John Byrne
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…a town where gun ownership is mandatory…•• …and government tramples all over the rights of the people!
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Mark Haslett
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From the article: "People in Europe feel they need to be protected by the government. People in the U.S. feel they need to be protected from the government," said Jones, the owner of a .357-caliber Magnum.
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...so they have government pass a law that forces people to buy guns in a measure to help protect people from the government. Do they also burn their money to protect it from being stolen?
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John Byrne
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We, the People already HAVE protection against the government. It's called "voting." Unfortunately, too many are too lazy to get up off their fat asses and USE that power.
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Steven Legge
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| Posted: 29 April 2014 at 12:40pm | IP Logged | 5
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said Jones, the owner of a .357-caliber Magnum.
Certainly he realizes the only government a 357 will protect him from is the local high school student government.
But he makes an example about being people being afraid. Afraid of the government, afraid of minorities, afraid of your neighbour. Afraid of someone taking your stuff. A big part of why there are so many guns is that people who are afraid want security, and they feel guns give them that. And the US news media, regardless of channel or political bent, does nothing but feed that fear.
And out of the 31,000 or so firearm related deaths in the US in 2010, 19,000 were suicides. Out of the remaning 11,000 who were killed, 55% were african americans, 17% hispanics. Which means 18% of about 1/3rd of the firearm deaths are white/other. I'm not saying race definitely plays a part of this this, but if more white people were being murdered with guns, do you think there would probably have been a change by now?
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John Byrne
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And out of the 31,000 or so firearm related deaths in the US in 2010, 19,000 were suicides. Out of the remaning 11,000 who were killed, 55% were african americans, 17% hispanics. Which means 18% of about 1/3rd of the firearm deaths are white/other. I'm not saying race definitely plays a part of this this, but if more white people were being murdered with guns, do you think there would probably have been a change by now?•• Again, I go back to Sandy Hook (which was, after all, "just down the road" from me). If that slaughter of innocents didn't change the NRA -- except, possibly, to make them MORE insane -- of cause the politicians at Federal, State and City level to grow spines, nothing ever will. Most of the time, the massacres are predominantly of White people (in this country), so the race of the victims isn't an issue. The gun fetish is what is the real problem.
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Conrad Teves
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From the thread title, this seemed the only appropriate place to post this, otherwise, submitted without comment. Because I'm kinda speechless: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-zombie-apoc alypse-florida-bill-20140430,0,2194806.htmlstory#axzz30Sz5MO FL
Edited to add: Yes, I realize it's a sort of protest thing. But if it becomes a law, it might make Florida look silly (er).
Edited by Conrad Teves on 01 May 2014 at 6:37am
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Steven Legge
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Most of the time, the massacres are predominantly of White people (in this country)
True, but speaking from say, the perspective of some hardcore gun nut who is at WAR against the war on guns, those tragedies are fairly infrequent and could be considered collateral damage considering the hundreds of other gun related homicides that take place nation wide on a daily basis. It would take a Sandy Hook every week for two months for those guys to finally concede change, because certainly those hundreds of poor and minorities killing each other off before the 11 o'clock news hits doesn't mean anything to them.
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Peter Martin
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Exchange student shot for trespassing in garage: LINK
The shooter left the garage door open to encourage trespassers...
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Marcel Chenier
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Americans are going to really have to take to the streets en masse to handle this problem; NRA is "too big to fail" as far as the politicians are concerned.
It's up to the leverage of united citizens to make the change.
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Thom Price
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"your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights"
As despicable as that statement is, at least one of the pro-gun crowd is finally honest about it.
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Neil Lindholm
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‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
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