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Jeremy Boyd
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 12:40pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Full disclosure: the prequels were awful and I'm trying to pretend they never existed and I never saw them.

So.. I watch this trailer/teaser and try to just think about the original movies...

I'm stoked!  
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I didn't notice it when I watched the trailer, but I saw Robert Kirkman point out on the twitters that there are no shots in space in the entire trailer. STRATOSPHERE WARS doesn't sound quite as romantic.
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 12:42pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

the last of which is only 10 years old.
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Only? 10 years is quite a long time in my book. I gave up hope of any more Star Wars films being made after ROTJ within about 5 years.
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

This is a valid critcism, presuming it is Tatooine (and I'd have to assume
it is) -- I'd really rather not see Tatooine again unless Luke decides he
wants to visit his homeworld for one last time.
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At least one shot features the two suns in the background, so how
could it not be?
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

My buddies over at TWO TRUE FREAKS weigh in:


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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 12:51pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

As for the other criticisms, they could be levelled in varying degrees at
the Phantom Menace original teaser, especially the fortune-cookie
dialogue: 'Every generation has a legend, every journey has a first
step'.
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That wasn't dialogue!
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 12:52pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I don't see the two suns, but it's irrelevant, isn't it?

Do we definitively know that there are no other planets with deserts in that solar system? The overwhelming liklihood is that it is Tatooine, but until something says 'This is Tattooine' it is an assumption nevertheless.
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 12:56pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

That wasn't dialogue!
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You're splitting hairs now. The voiceover is serving the same function as interstitial titles.

Actual fortune-cookie dialogue from the Menace teaser 'Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate...'


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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Well you have to expect fortune cookie dialogue from guys who were the equivalent of Buddhist monks who used lightsabers.LOL

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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 1:17pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Actual fortune-cookie dialogue from the Menace teaser 'Fear leads to
anger, anger leads to hate...'
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Hey, now! Yoda made his career by dispensing fortune-cookie dialogue!
I expected it from him!
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 1:19pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I think there's a tendency to say "well that's going to be garbage" when it comes to trailers.

The reverse was true for Prometheus.  I thought the trailer for it looked fantastic and then thought the movie was the pits...

Who knows..  Maybe I'm an idiot for being all zen optimist. Happy Friday everybody!

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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Difficult to see. Always in motion is the teaser.
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 2:03pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

If the two I have seem were real trailers them this whole project looks like a sick joke.

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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 2:08pm | IP Logged | 14 post reply

The lightsaber fellow looks like he raided the wardrobe departments of Assassins Creed or Organization 13 from Kingdom Hearts II...
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 2:15pm | IP Logged | 15 post reply

The teaser is a little weak, but it's just a teaser. I'm optimistic about this one. Abrams delivered a much needed shot in the arm for the Trek movie franchise, something that was long dead by 2009 and hopefully he can do it here. The only real criticism of the Abrams' Trek films is the inclusion of Nimoy. I really wished they moved completely away from the original. There was no reason to tie in TOS, other than the studio being afraid of completely alienating The Trekkies. Hopefully, the original Star Wars cast is here for than just that.

If this movie can "undo" the bad taste the prequels left in everyone's mouth, then I'm all for it. 




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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 3:06pm | IP Logged | 16 post reply

...and Greg Kirkman, thank you for reminding me why I stepped away
from this forum.
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply


  The Alliance destroyed two Death Stars, killed Darth Vader and the Emperor and yet the Empire is still a problem 30 years later?
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The Alliance destroyed two Death Stars, killed Darth Vader and the Emperor and yet the Empire is still a problem 30 years later?
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I'll be disappointed if it's the same Empire still going. Common sense would seem to suggest it cannot be but I'd also say it's difficult to be too sure about anything from the brief collection of clips that comprise the teaser.

It's possible stormtroopers and tie fighters now represent whatever galactic authority is in place. Maybe they represent a faction of the long-fallen Empire. Saddam was deposed over 10 years ago, but we're still dealing with the leftovers of that regime -- how long does it take to break up a Galactic Empire?

From a non-story standpoint, I'm glad to see stormtroopers and tie fighters, without which you lose a major look and feel of the films.


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There had to still be scores of Star Destroyers and maybe hundreds of planetary governors and garrisons out there to root out.  I don't think the Empire was going to collapse that fast.  The events in RotJ probably created a crapload of mini tyrants all over the galaxy.  But, yeah, thirty years.  
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 Greg Kirkman wrote:
This looks and feels much more like an Abrams film than a STAR WARS film, to me. Too much mystery, which serves only to hide the fact that it looks to be all style, no substance.


Well put, I got the exact same impression Greg.

It looks like they're grabbing every significant iconic Star Wars visual element from the OT (Stormtroopers, X-Wings, Lightsabers, Millenium Falcon, Tatooine, etc.) and putting them together in an "exciting" fast-paced motion blurred CGI'd Abrams movie.

I can understand that after the let-down that was the prequels, fans are excited about seeing the traditional Star Wars elements again. But this brief glimpse leaves me thinking that Abrams sat down and decided that the best formula would be to take all of those original elements and turn the dial to 120% - "So you like Lightsabers? We'll give you a lightsaber so full of force energy, it literally bursts out of the hilt!! Booyah!!"
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It's going to be full of funny stuff to draw big laughs from the public. Look at the girl in the teaser ! She's rising a huge metallic popsicle !

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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 4:26pm | IP Logged | 22 post reply

Aside from the music, I thought that was a pretty lackluster teaser. Hoping that this is more Star Wars and less JJ Abrams.

Also, did the lightsaber really need to be improved on? Don't mess with perfection!
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 4:28pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

I guess we should expect some whipsaber too. Handle with care.
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Posted: 28 November 2014 at 4:42pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

I just noticed they created a new robot that looks exactly like a current soccer ball.
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My first reaction was "meh"

After watching it two more times, the most optimistic thing I can say is that maybe Jar Jar Abrams chose these clips in order to lower expectations significantly.  I mean, even the Phantom Menace trailer made me think the movie was going to be awesome.  I probably watched it 200 times. 

Then I watched the movie...
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