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Josh Goldberg Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 October 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2065
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Posted: 27 July 2014 at 7:48am | IP Logged | 1
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This just makes me want to reiterate what I said in another thread last night: I'm so glad I don't read modern-day comics.On the plus side, I've finally realized my lifelong dream of having the physique of a superhero. I now have the same physique as big fat Benjamin J. Grimm. And I didn't even have to do anything to achieve it!
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Norman Hardy Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 02 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 189
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Posted: 27 July 2014 at 3:18pm | IP Logged | 2
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So weird to see, in that Pacheco art, the use of a whole page of old school 4-panel layout to tell what is basically 7 lines of dialogue... and NOTHING else.
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I think it's actually four panels to show Ben getting dressed.
I kinda liked Pacheco's run on FF.
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Shaun Barry Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 08 December 2008 Location: United States Posts: 6828
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Posted: 27 July 2014 at 3:35pm | IP Logged | 3
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Nevermind the four panels of Ben Grimm getting dressed...
...what the hell is going on with Johnny Storm's left hand?!?!
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Stephen Robinson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5835
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Posted: 27 July 2014 at 4:19pm | IP Logged | 4
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I see artists are making the same mistake as the Tim Story FF where Ben Grimm basically looks like the Thing but without the prosthetics (in other words, not a conventionally attractive man). Kirby drew a very handsome Ben (as Crystal herself commmented). A slightly beefier John Hamm would be closer to pre-Thing Ben.
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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 132135
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Posted: 27 July 2014 at 4:55pm | IP Logged | 5
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Rod Taylor! Too old, now, but my "casting" for Ben, like, forever!
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Darren Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 April 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 5994
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Posted: 27 July 2014 at 5:12pm | IP Logged | 6
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----I've been suggesting for some time that we all use @ for "irony" and/or sarcasm.----JB
I seem to recall this brought up briefly in an episode of Q.I.
I'm sure they said that the use of the character ^ (like quoatation marks) around the sarcastic comment, was acceptable. However, I note on Wikipedia (spit), they list the backward question mark ⸮ as the indicator, both of irony -and- sarcasm. I presume for the latter it would follow a traditional question mark's usage by apprearing at the end of the sarcastic comment. They also list a bracketed exclamation point as a further option.
Wow, your hair looks lovely⸮
or
^Wow, your hair looks lovely!^.
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Wow, your hair looks lovely(!)
I favour the middle option, personally.
-D
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Doug Centers Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 February 2014 Location: United States Posts: 5438
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Posted: 27 July 2014 at 5:14pm | IP Logged | 7
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I know he was way before their time but when I see Kirby Ben Grimm I immediately think of Nat Pendleton.One of my favorite supporters.
Edited by Doug Centers on 27 July 2014 at 5:55pm
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Jesus Garcia Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 April 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2414
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Posted: 27 July 2014 at 6:31pm | IP Logged | 8
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Ben with a gut? That drawing made me think of Michael Chiklis with more hair. Perhaps the artist thinks the 2005/2007 Films are on-character.
When I first say Gary Lockwood in ST, the lightbulb on top of my bean lit "Ben Grimm!!!"
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 8369
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Posted: 27 July 2014 at 8:58pm | IP Logged | 9
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Plus, why do so many colorists not use diffuse highlights for things that aren't shiny? The leather jacket in panel 4, nice. Johnny's pants in two? Not so much. Unless I'm misreading the scene and he's wearing silk pajamas. ••
I've been complaining about this for years. In CHAPTER ONE there was a page with Norman Osborn where he was apparently wearing green glass pants!
Glass, when required, is another problem. Windex does not exist, as far as too many colorists are concerned. Windows and mirrors are fogged, almost every time! ========= Yeah, there was a period for about 15 years where this was a real problem. DC was no better. For a while, it seemed nobody could color Superman's outfit. Although I have to say, for some reason, your work seemed to take more of a beating by bad digital color than almost anyone else. I felt bad for you.
I think it's gotten a lot better over the last few years but with it came colorists who thought they should have more input to the actual art than just coloring it.
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