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James Howell
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Milo Manara released a variant cover to the new Spider-Woman book coming in November, with her crouched on a rooftop crawling toward the viewer, but the way it's drawn has caused controversy, saying it's sexist.
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It shows the curvature of her bottom, and now the fanboys think it's filth.
They don't care about the color of the piece, or the dynamic pose, they just saw ass crack, and got offended.
I know this question's been asked, but I gotta ask it.
When did comic book geeks turn into such insufferable prudes?
It's a beautiful piece by Manara, a gifted artist, but it's going to be wasted on these troglodytes, who can't come to terms with their own libido.
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Matt Reed
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It's an ugly image. Sorry, but it is. If that somehow makes me a "troglodyte" then so be it. Put Spider-Man in the exact same pose and his ass cheeks wouldn't be impossibly separated by his costume AND you most certainly would hear people cry foul if they were.
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So we're all on the same page...
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Matt Reed
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The male equivalent...
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Jason Czeskleba
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The majority of comic geeks are not prudes. To the contrary, they want to see female superheroes portrayed in sexualized ways. This is quite clear from examining the product currently offered by Marvel and DC.
I don't know that I'd agree that criticism of this cover is prudish either. Portraying a theoretically all-ages character in a sexualized manner doesn't strike me as the best idea. The criticism isn't based on prudishness, but on the question of whether an action-adventure story featuring a heroic all-ages character should depict her in a sexualized pose on the cover. Is it sexist to portray a woman as a sex object in a story that is not about sex? Is it sexist to do so when men are never portrayed that way? I'd say yeah, it is.
On the other hand, I don't really understand why there is an outcry over this particular cover, when it's hardly any different than hundreds of other covers than have been published over the past two decades.
Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 21 August 2014 at 12:22am
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Trevor Smith
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Yeah, sorry. Much as I love the female form, there's a time and a place.
The cover of a book that SHOULD be all ages isn't really the place.
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It's the ass and not the chest, that's why. People have become immune to seeing this...
But a sexualization of the ass by an artist known to do fairly graphic depictions of women (do a Google image search) will elicit this kind of response. Marvel isn't stupid. It's exactly what they wanted.
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James Howell
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I'm afraid we are going to have to agree to disagree. I think it'a a beautiful piece.
The color of it, the pose, the sense of movement, the different values of her costume, the top of her derriere following the small of her arched back, leading to her face, that's good composition.
If you don't like it, that's fine, but it's not offensive.
If you don't like Superhuman people wearing skintight clothes doing athletic things, and artists taking that into account on the page, then maybe Superhero comics are not for you.
I guess fans just want to see their heroes just stand on a cover like their standing at a bus stop.
No wonder Superhero comics are so boring these days.
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James,I am not prude, I own a number of original Olivia, Sneyd and Silke
nudes. I think the cover is in poor taste. First off the image is very similar
to a cover he did for his erotic story Click and the original Click had a
very sexual situation. In addition I have read Marvel wanted to bring in
new female readers with the Spider-Woman series. This is not how I
would bring in female readers. Granted they do have Greg Land an artist
when he originally started in comics looked like he lifted many of the
poses in his comics from Porn mags. Manara has done covers for Marvel
in the past which have been in better taste.
Edited by Brian Peck on 21 August 2014 at 12:47am
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" I think it'a a beautiful piece."
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Personally, I'm not commenting on the quality of the work, or esthetics.
That's all a matter of taste. My issue is using it as a cover of (repeating
myself here) what should be an all ages book.
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Matt,
Big difference between the PowerGirl pose and the Spider-Woman. The
later is a pose that looks like it was in a Porn Magazine.
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Joe Zhang
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| Posted: 21 August 2014 at 12:58am | IP Logged | 12
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Will superhero comics continue on as a fan club for grown men, or will it become as it once was, a genre that attempted to appeal to all ages and genders? Hopefully the visibility of the movies will push comics to the latter.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 21 August 2014 at 12:59am
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