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Darren Taylor
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[EDIT-25th-June 2019. The length of a page strand has been altered in order to better serve the Fan-Fiction Board. The knock-on result is that my general description of where some of these observations lie within the now old page structure is misleading. You will be taken to the appropriate thread but you will need to roughly -double- my estimates]


Cropping a figure:

Pearls of Wisdom.

(Example taken from Gallery. Clicking the image will take you to the gallery where you can enlarge the image.)



Drawing Cars (& Ellipses):

Pearls of Wisdom.


(Top of the thread)

Something, imo, JB knows about for sure! I've long admired how John handles wheeled vehicles, ever since I saw this image, in fact.






[Edited to fix Link]---Thanks Eric.


Edited by Darren Taylor on 25 June 2019 at 6:16am
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Darren, the cropping figures link is broken. Looks like you double pasted part of it.
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That "trick" to drawing ellipses was one of the most valuable things I took away from Art College. Perhaps THE most valuable!!
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Stereotypes:

Pearls of Wisdom.

(Throughout this thread.)

Enjoy the line, enjoy the process.

Pearls of Wisdom.

(Great observations.)



(And nary a superhero costume in sight! This is something I think John does extremly well. And I always get the feeling of fun from these "quiet scenes". The funny thing here for me, is I tend to buy -these- sorts of pages, as, for me, there is generaly as much, if not arguably more, skill at work in them, than the ones filled with superheroes and villains. And they are cheaper!)


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---Perhaps THE most valuable!!

I wonder how different thing might have turned out had you -not- attended Alberta College of Art?

There'd be no Kitty Pryde in the X-Men, as a starter.

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Hm. The character came before the name, so she'd still be there, just called something else.

However, the greater possibility is that had I not gone to ACA, I might not be in comics at all! Some very important dominoes toppled there!

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 QUOTE:
The funny thing here for me, is I tend to buy -these- sorts of pages, as, for me, there is generaly as much, if not arguably more, skill at work in them, than the ones filled with superheroes and villains.

Whenever a what-should-I-put-in-my-portfolio thread pops up on a forum, I always tell prospective artists that they should include at least one sequential page of everyday activity: a coffee shop conversation; a couple of guys on a riverbank fishing; a classroom scene… editors see endless portfolios crammed to bursting with improbably proportioned men and women beating the tar out of each other. If you can render clothing, body language, a convincing environment, and still present a mundane scene in a way that engages the reader visually then an editor will sit up and take notice.

It takes a number of genuinely difficult drawing skills to pull off, something many people fail to recognise.
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As I used to tell young artists who showed me their portfolios, we can train chimps to draw guys in skin tight costumes. What we need is people who can also draw the real world.
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By way of some examples, that I hope are relevant.










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Constructing the form:

Pearls of Wisdom

(Top of the page)



(Full-Fig to the right, is moving from various degrees of completion right-to-left. I thought it served as a good example of the constructive process of starting with shapes and adding definition. The thousand line "wireframe" method appears to be more like a sculpter, pulling the definition & form out of the rough contruct.)



(I subscribe to the constructive method, so have no experience in the other but the main diference -appears- to be that one method, builds the form from the ground up ("balloon") and the other ("wireframe") defines the form from the outside, in. I hope that's right---)


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This thread is gold - thank you for compiling this, Darren.



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I don't suppose we could sticky the thread?  This is better than a FAQ, to be sure.  If you are an artist, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want to know this stuff.

Great stuff Darren!  Thanks for all the work!
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