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Bob Simko
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I've never even thought about Strange halting his aging with his magic
before, but I like Roger Stern's idea of the 1920s a lot. It would give real
visual variety to the movie.
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It never struck me as a conscious effort on Dr. Strange's part to retard his
age, but something that just came along with the mastery of the mystical
arts.
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David Strathairn sported a mustache in L.A. CONFIDENTIAL

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According to CBR, Marvel Studios have officially cast Benedict Cumberbatch in the role of Dr Strange. 

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Thus conforming to The Cumberbatch Rule, which dictates that 1 in every 8 major roles between 2013 to 2016 be given to someone called Benedict Cumberbatch.

I think he'll do a good job; he's got the gravitas.
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My only real problem with Cumberbatch is that he's a star, so it will be his face on the screen, not Dr. Strange's.

Hollywood has forgotten, I think, that Christopher Reeve and Mark Hammill and Harrison Ford, et al, were not big stars when they first essayed their iconic roles. On screen we saw Superman, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo. Even as soon as SUPERMAN II this was no longer the case.

I probably won't be seeing the movie anyway, tho, so. . . .

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"My only real problem with Cumberbatch is that he's a star, so it will be his face on the screen, not Dr. Strange's.

Hollywood has forgotten, I think, that Christopher Reeve and Mark Hammill and Harrison Ford, et al, were not big stars when they first essayed their iconic roles. On screen we saw Superman, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo. Even as soon as SUPERMAN II this was no longer the case.

I probably won't be seeing the movie anyway, tho, so. . . ."


He isn't THAT well known. While I agree people know him, he's not a marquee actor. Afterall, it's not like they cast Ben Affleck in the title role.....

Also, and this is just curiosity, but why are you already writing the movie off? So far all we have is a director, star, and release date. Little else is known about it. Seems a bit early to already be making those kind of judgments IMHO. 


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Also, and this is just curiosity, but why are you already writing the movie off? So far all we have is a director, star, and release date. Little else is known about it. Seems a bit early to already be making those kind of judgments IMHO.

Then I suggest you don't make them. I, on the other hand, will rely on previous experience.

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Care to define previous experience?
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Are you being deliberately obtuse, Keith?
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Benedict Cumberbatch was my number one choice in the role, so I'm really happy about this casting.

2014 was an an amazing year for Marvel films. 2015 has a good chance at repeating that success, and now with this news, it looks like 2016 might be another shoe in.
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No I just generally want to know. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of why he may feel the way he does about the Marvel movies and I'm interested to hear his further opinion on it. That and I'm just trying to get a feel for why some feel so underwhelmed by this movie and are already deciding it will suck so early on. 

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For some, the sample size of Marvel Films is big enough that they already know they won't like what's coming down the pike.  Although directors and screenwriters are different, the same tone and sensibility throughout is one of the things that has driven audiences in huge numbers to these films...and has also disillusioned others.  

I'm not saying I'm one of those people re: Marvel Films, but I can certainly understand the sentiment.  I don't need to see SUPERMAN VS BATMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE to know that I can already dismiss it because I hated MAN OF STEEL so much.  I understand that's same director/screenwriter, but I also dismissed the BATMAN franchise in the 90s with different directors and screenwriters because I didn't like where it was going, gave up on the X-films after X3 because I found nothing to enjoy, never wanted to see FF2 because the original was a mess, and the fifth installment of the TERMINATOR franchise also gets a big old pass from me as well after just reading about it. The recently released trailer did nothing to change my opinion.  

I think it completely within bounds not to have to watch absolutely everything before you form a single opinion about it. 
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Care to define previous experience?

Experience I've had previously.

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Robert Downey Jr, was an established actor when he played Tony
Stark and I think the result was that we wound up with RDJ as Iron
Man. There are very wealthy people out there who probably dismiss my
concern, of course.

The difference, as I see it, though between RDJ and Cumberbatch is
that RDJ had never played a hero before. In fact, the entire arc of IRON
MAN is about the RDJ we know from the tabloids becoming heroic.
Cumberbatch though is most known for Sherlock Holmes. Not only is
that a heroic character, he's not enough removed for me from Strange
for me to imagine how he'd play the character differently.

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Not in love with the Cumberbatch choice but will wait and see- He did play an American with a Southern accent in August: OSage County
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I've liked Cumberbatch in everything that I've seen him in. But, I have a hard time seeing him in my mind as Dr. Strange. Mordred the Mystic maybe. His name might have enough clout to get butts in the seats though.
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Cumberbatch not THAT well known? He isn't Brad Pitt, but he is plenty big.
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"Cumberbatch not THAT well known? He isn't Brad Pitt, but he is plenty big."

I agree, but does he carry as much baggage playing Dr. Strange as say Ben Affleck playing  Bruce Wayne/Batman? Or even Amy Adams playing Lois Lane?

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I agree, but does he carry as much baggage playing Dr. Strange as say Ben Affleck playing Bruce Wayne/Batman? Or even Amy Adams playing Lois Lane?

You're altering the equation to maintain your answer.

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You agree with the fact that I disagreed with you? So you are conceding the point that Cumberbatch IS a big star? Big enough that a statement like, "he isn't THAT big a star" is not a genuine statement?

I'm not sure what you mean by baggage. Is that an actor's recognizability by the public, typecast roles, or something else? If baggage refers to recognizability then yes, he is on par with Affleck and Adams. If baggage refers to typecasting then no for Affleck and yes for Adams. I think Strange isn't a drastic departure from the types of roles he plays. Affleck as Wayne is a sharp departure from the roles we have seen him in and Adams as Lane wasn't too far away from her norm for me.

There you go. I've answered a few possible meanings and most likely not even come close to what you are asking about.

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My in-laws love SHERLOCK.  A younger audience knows him as Khan from STAR TREK: INTO DARKNESS.  He's currently starring in THE IMITATION GAME which is getting rave reviews and will be a serious Oscar contender.  He was in last year's Oscar favorite 12 YEARS A SLAVE.  

All of this to say that he's hardly an unknown.  A wide audience recognizes him and understands what he brings to the table.  Marvel was banking on that name recognition.  Arguing the semantics of just how big a star he is or what kind of "baggage" he brings to the role seems odd to me. 
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Others have  said his casting would distract from the character, that you would see the actor and not the character. I don't think that will be the case. Simple as that.
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Simple? This was simple? I'm going to have to do my Inigo Montoya impression for that one.
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Others have  said his casting would distract from the character, that you would see the actor and not the character. I don't think that will be the case. Simple as that.

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I wish I agreed.  I have high hopes for the film, and have enjoyed BC in almost every role in which I've seen him - however, I think he's becoming dangerously close to being over-exposed.
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I will quote what JB said above:

"My only real problem with Cumberbatch is that he's a
star, so it will be his face on the screen, not Dr.
Strange's.

Hollywood has forgotten, I think, that Christopher Reeve
and Mark Hammill and Harrison Ford, et al, were not big
stars when they first essayed their iconic roles. On
screen we saw Superman, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo. Even
as soon as SUPERMAN II this was no longer the case."

I will throw in Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman and put
forth to everyone that if you asked someone on the
street who Reeve, Hamill, and Ford were before they were
cast in their iconic roles, you'd be met with stares.

That's not the case for Cumberbatch. In fact, he's
already attached to an iconic character: Sherlock
Holmes. Yes, Ford played Indiana Jones after Han Solo
but it worked for Jones to "fit" into the type of
character we might have come to expect from Ford after
STAR WARS. I don't think that's what I want for DR
STRANGE (a version of his Sherlock).

Tangentially, that is something that has bothered me
about casting of the Doctor since JNT's tenure.
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