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Josh Goldberg
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Posted: 06 June 2015 at 10:00am | IP Logged | 1  

"'The fans said...if you don’t give them costumes, we’ll never buy another issue,'"
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That presupposes some extremely short lead time for those first few issues of FF.
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It was four months between the first and the third issue, when the costumes first appeared. Still a short time, but obviously not impossible.
And it is most likely that costumes would have been introduced sooner or later anyway. Can't imagine the comic running for years with the members in everyday clothes in most issues.
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In these days of endless reprint editions and also re-tellings (not to be confused with reboots), now it becomes an issue of whether the Hulk was green or grey in his first transformation.  Or, at least, leave it to Peter David to MAKE it an issue!  If someone wants to do the origin story in a modern issue, I can easily see an argument developing between the writer and the editor over how he should be colored!

Even if you accept a production issue (his greyness in the first issue) as a canonical truth, another, simpler, explanation would have done the job just as well--it was NIGHTTIME and everything can look grey at night!

When Marvel made the decision to make the HULK in the Ultimate Universe grey, that marked for me the entire "Ultimate" Universe as merely an "Alternate" universe!  (As has really become apparent the last couple of years!)  As anybody with common sense could tell you--an "Ultimate" presentation of the Hulk would make him green!  (The Hulk OWNS green more than Kermit!)

Thank goodness the TV and movie versions have always bypassed Issue #1's "two grey evenings."  
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Now when Marvel has decided to do a serious makeover on a lot of its characters after the latest Secret Wars event, and there is still no trace of Hulk, who knows what they have planned for him.

As Stan Lee explained, he needed Hulk to stand out from normal humans and a superhero costume just wouldn't work, which is why he focused on his skin color instead. In the first issues Hulk was not as strong or huge as he later was, and if he used some new clothes rather than his rags, he could still hide in the crowd as a large ugly man. But had he made him just as large as he would later become, an given him a little more primitive anatomy (especially seen in the post-Secret Wars Bill Mantlo stories and the McFarlane Hulk), he probably wouldn't have needed neither a suit or a specific skin color. Yet green is what we now have come to associate with his skin. And later yeas, grey when it's talk about his early days.

The Ultimate Universe always seemed for me like an attempt to make a little more "hip" and more realistic Marvel universe meant for new readers.
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