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Robbie Parry
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Link not live or coming up for me.
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I'm not having much luck with the link for some reason.


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I had to scroll down the page to find the story.  This might work better. 



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Thanks Mike. I did try. :)
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One of the things that confuses many people when they hear there is any sort of debate over who wrote the works of Shakespeare is that they tend to image manuscripts in the form we know them today -- pages pf script, with a title page and the author's name attached.

Through much of theatrical history, this was not the case. Actors, for instance, were not given the whole play to read, but only their own line (sides). Much of what has come down to us was transcribed from performances (the Elizabethan equivalent of sneaking a video camera into a movie screening). Different actors ad libbed different readings. Back and forths with the audience were common. Printers commonly rewrote the works to fit onto specific line spaces.

In other words, expect to be frustrated if seeking an "original manuscript".

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I see an equivalence - and I may be being clumsy - between advocates of the Stratford man and Christians who try and make the Gospels fit their narrative.

They always start with the premise that they are 100% right - and make the 'facts' fit their narrative. With anything, I think it's better to ascertain, as best as one can, what the facts ACTUALLY are. 
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One of the compelling elements of John Thomas Looney's De Vere conclusion is that he did not start with a candidate in mind. He made a list of the qualities that would be expected in the Author, and then looked for someone who fit that list.
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That's the way to do it!

I have tried to steer some people away from focusing on Looney's rather unfortunate surname. It can be a distraction. Unfortunately, one acquaintance told me that a person named Looney shouldn't have probed such a serious subject. It is just a name at the end of the day.
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Like profiling a murderer except all the suspects have been dead for hundreds of years which makes it rather tricky!
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