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Posted: 29 September 2015 at 7:37pm | IP Logged | 1  

As most of you know, one of my least favorite things is fans holding forth as if with great knowledge on things about which they seem to actually know little.

Something I come across quite often is fans who think HIDDEN YEARS should have been 27 issues. And this is not new. Some were predicting that length of run when the book first appeared.

Why?

Because the original X-MEN series ended (going to reprint) with 66 and returned (after GSX-M1) with 94. That's 27 issues by the numbers.

But. . .

Issue 66 had a March 1970 cover date, and the book at that time was monthly, and had been for several years. It was not until it was brought back as a reprint, 9 months after it was cancelled, that it reverted to its original bimonthly status.

So…

From 66 to 94 is from March 1970 (by the cover date) to August 1975 (again, cover date). More than FIVE YEARS! Something like 65 issues, if the monthly schedule had been maintained.

When X-MEN 94 was published, fandom was mostly fandom, and did not yet contain the legions of speculators ravenously seeking meaningless "first issues", so "tradition" was maintained when the book came back, and the numbering was picked up from the previous issue, 93, even tho that was a reprint. Much the same way that the Silver Age FLASH picked up the numbering of his Golden Age predecessor.

27 issues? Or 65? Meaningless, since the series was intended to be ongoing (a fact almost completely disguised by Marvel's "stealth marketing"), and I would have been happy as a clam to do 100 issues.

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Stephen Robinson
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Posted: 29 September 2015 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | 2  

I enjoyed HIDDEN YEARS (when I could find it). I confess to having
picked up simply because JB was doing it. I had no real knowledge of
the original X-MEN (aside from their cartoon appearances on SPIDER-
MAN AND HIS AMAZING FRIENDS). However, I liked HY so much I
quickly got a TPB of the Adams issues. I've grown to prefer the original
team and original concept ("strangest teens of all"). I also wish we'd
actually see that team (not played by middle-aged actors) on the big
screen on even TV some day.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 29 September 2015 at 8:00pm | IP Logged | 3  

I'd have been happier with 27 issues. Or even 23.

We wuz robbed!
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 29 September 2015 at 8:25pm | IP Logged | 4  

"... and I would have been happy as a clam to do 100 issues."

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Ugh! Your Killin' me. That was too short of a run for me (and my favorite).
Please let Marvel see this and make JB" an offer he can't refuse."



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Bill Guerra
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"Please let Marvel see this and make JB 'an offer he can't refuse.'"

Delivered by the maggia?
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Steve Ogden
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Posted: 29 September 2015 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | 6  

Really enjoyed that series. I wish it would have lasted as long as you wanted it to JB. At least it was enough for two volumes.




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James Lansberry
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Posted: 29 September 2015 at 9:23pm | IP Logged | 7  

Dang, that pic reminds me that I need to start working on getting my spares sent to a bindery.
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 29 September 2015 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | 8  

Maybe one day Marvel will give up publishing comics, and license out their characters to other publishers instead. Then a company like IDW can get JB to continue his stories of the original X-Men. 
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Philippe Negrin
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Posted: 30 September 2015 at 2:24am | IP Logged | 9  

I get your point Mr Byrne. it's just that it would have been an obvious and pleasing to the mind mathematical gimmick to do these 27 issues only. And the hidden numbers on the covers seemed to point to that evening of things out. Of course everybody would have been happy with more.
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Marc Cheek
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Posted: 30 September 2015 at 10:35am | IP Logged | 10  

100 issues...? Oh, what could have been...!
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Posted: 30 September 2015 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | 11  

100 issues would've been awesome. Even if Marvel knew they
were going to cancel a series that was selling, I'm
surprised they didn't give you the extra five issues to try
and tie the series end to issue 94.
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Posted: 30 September 2015 at 8:41pm | IP Logged | 12  

I'm surprised by the number of people who, over the years, have really thought I could have caught up to GSX-M1 in five issues if Marvel had "let" me have them. Although I included a "hidden number" on the cover, the stories themselves were what indicated where the issues were positioned in "Marvel Time." And even tho my hidden numbers were not far from 94, I fully expected to reach and pass that particular magic number. There were a whole lot of X-Men appearances during the reprint years that I was planning on catching up to, without paying any heed to what reprint issue came out when they did.
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