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David Allen Perrin
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@Brandon -

I meant to be offensive about Ben Carson because Ben Carson is offensive.

It's what he deserves for his behavior since he has gained fame.  

Growing up in Detroit (like me) and having every bit of government help overcoming the problems of his childhood in the inner city and to succeed the way he has....only to see him do his level best to pull up the ladder from behind him for others is disgusting to me. 

Some of us in the black community call out brothers like Carson in harsh terms.  

Allen West.  Same.

Alan Keyes.  Same.

It's that nasty double standard you spoke of earlier.



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I'll stick with James Woods' assessment on this one. He was right about 9/11 and he's right about this.
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Michael Roberts
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I'll stick with James Woods' assessment on this one. He was right about
9/11 and he's right about this.

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I wasn't aware he was on campus at the time.
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James Reese
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He was on the 9/11 dry run flight and has an IQ of 180. He's a perceptive guy.
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He was on the 9/11 dry run flight and has an IQ of 180. He's a
perceptive guy.

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Which makes him an authority on everything he opens his mouth
about, even things he did not personally witness. Got it.
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James Reese
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People on campus said Christians were targeted. He didn't make that shit up. How many Jews were killed? How many Muslims? 
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People on campus said Christians were targeted.


Well, no. All accounts agree that the shooter asked his victims about
their religion. Some have interpreted that as his targeting Christians.
Others witnesses have stated that the answer didn't matter as to
whether he shot them or not.


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How many Jews were killed? How many Muslims?


How many of the dead victims were confirmed to be Christian?
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I meant to be offensive about Ben Carson because Ben Carson is offensive.

He may very well be. But why the need to bring his race into it? I could probably think of a hundred offensive things to say about someone without making it racial, but that's just me.

How is racism ever supposed to really be taken seriously in this country when so many trivialize it by using it as a political weapon?


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Some of us in the black community call out brothers like Carson in harsh terms.  

Allen West.  Same.

Alan Keyes.  Same.

So a person's racial integrity takes a back seat when they have the audacity to belong to a political party you don't like? For this, they should be subjected to the same vile insults they would get from the Ku Klux Klan? Their dignity as black men suddenly means nothing? 

Racism is wrong. Period. 

I know that many Liberal Democrats think they get to decide what's real racism and what isn't, but they don't. Nor to they get to decide who gets to be black and who doesn't.  

I loathe the political views of both Clarance Thomas and Ben Carson, but I will defend them as human beings where things like race is concerned. The fact that so many Liberal/Democrats who ordinarily fixate so much on racism when it suits their political agenda would not is very telling indeed. 


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Jeremy Simington
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JAMES REESE: How many Jews were killed?

Larry Levine, a secular Jewish person, was killed. So were a pagan and an agnostic. There is simply not yet enough evidence to be certain that Christians were targeted. Eyewitness testimony is unreliable, notoriously so in these kinds of horrible situations. Some examples (from the article I linked to):

Cassie Bernall was killed at Columbine. Initial reports were that she was shot after responding "yes" to the question of whether she was a Christian. Turns out that did not happen.

James Holmes, the Aurora movie theater murderer, never said, "I am the Joker!" He didn't say anything, he just shot.

Michael Brown, shot by police in Ferguson, never said "Hands up! Don't shoot."
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James Reese
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How many non-Christians were killed? If it wasn't a hate crime you should be able to answer the question since you know it wasn't. He shot anybody that answered Christian in the head, execution style. Only they were shot that way. This is confirmed by various news sources. If it isn't a hate crime why we're only Christians shot this way? He shot Christians to kill. 
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Jeremy,

Thanks for the response.

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Thanks Jeremy for setting things straight.
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