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Casey Sager
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Absolutely breathtaking! Congrats all around on this one.
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Michael Arndt
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| Posted: 17 November 2015 at 7:11pm | IP Logged | 2
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Wow.
Congrats to the commissioner.
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Doug Centers
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| Posted: 17 November 2015 at 9:59pm | IP Logged | 3
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Outstanding !
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Robbie Parry
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Brilliant. Very intense!
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Andrew Bitner
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I love Wolverine's grin and hate that "everybody survived" nonsense. C'mon. Wolverine was a casual killer. Professor X brought him into the team to keep an eye on him, the unspoken "or else" being that his murderous ways might bring down trouble on mutants.
Why this has to be softened to some PG "oh, he really wasn't KILLING those guys" is beyond me. Was it going to wreck a toy deal or something?
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Jason Larouse
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Didn't the guys who survived become the Reavers lead by Donald Pierce?
Amazing how many spin off storylines Marvel has gotten out of Dark Phoenix Saga.
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Peter Martin
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Why this has to be softened to some PG "oh, he really wasn't KILLING those guys" is beyond me. --------------------------------------------- I can see where you're coming from and, as a kid, I loved the bits where I could show people 'Look, comics aren't just for kids!" and disliked the comics code, but somewhat paradoxically my views have inverted, and I now think the comics code had a very positive effect on comics. As ridiculous as the sequence as described by Josh above was, I look back with fondness on those sort of things.
Edited by Peter Martin on 19 November 2015 at 5:26pm
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Trevor Smith
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"...as a kid, I loved the bits where I could show people
'Look, comics aren't just for kids!" and disliked the
comics code, but somewhat paradoxically my views have
inverted, and I now think the comics code had a very
positive effect on comics."
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Plucked the words straight out of my head.
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John Byrne
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The Comics Code DID have a positive effect. It forced us to be smart, instead of obvious. Creative, instead of self-indulgent. The inspiration for this commission is a perfect example. Go look at the original scene. Action! Excitement! And... no blood. No gore. You have to provide that with your own imaginations -- which is a thousand times more effective than literal splatter.
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Greg Kirkman
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It helps that each of the panels where a goon gets cut down is colored
a striking red. The coloring gives the impression of blood and gore
without any actually being depicted on-panel.
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John Byrne
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Happy to take credit for the solid red motif. I suggested it to Glynis, and she pulled it off perfectly!
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Blair Herd
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The Comics Code DID have a positive effect. It forced us to be smart, instead of obvious. Creative, instead of self-indulgent. The inspiration for this commission is a perfect example. Go look at the original scene. Action! Excitement! And... no blood. No gore. You have to provide that with your own imaginations -- which is a thousand times more effective than literal splatter.
************************************************************ ***************** Perfectly stated. I think this is what is lost now in comics as well as movies, essentially most visual media. There is a lack of creativity or the ability to paint a picture. Everything is gratuitous in nature, taking place on camera instead of being implied. The audience, I suppose has been desensitized and needs more to get that visceral response. Something I have always admired about you JB is your ability to tell a story in just one panel or with a few expressions. No words are needed. That is a sign of true artistry.
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