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Stephen Robinson
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Gil Kane was an amazing comic book artist. I recently re-read some of his early
'80s run on ACTION COMICS, and it's quite a jolt to the system (much like the
JGL issues of SUPERMAN). No offense to Curt Swan -- but the layouts and
design were from a different universe. Perhaps that universe was MARVEL or
what we think of as the MARVEL style. I recall fans complaining in the letters
pages -- ranking Kane with Jack Kirby or Steve Ditko (but not FAVORABLY!).
Was there really such a dividing line between DC/MARVEL? If so, it makes it all
the more impressive how so many Marvel artists revitalized DC in the mid-to-
late '80s.
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Josh Goldberg
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I loved all those DC covers he did in the early Eighties!
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Joe Hollon
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The only page of original art I ever bought is a Gil Kane page from
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #150
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Let's see it, Eric!
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Robert Cosgrove
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One thing that was fun about Gil Kane was the number of layout pages(and practice sketches) that he used as part of his drawing process that eventually found their way into the market (or not so eventually, since Kane himself was selling them during his lifetime). One could study them and get some insights into Kane's thinking, and perhaps some drawing tips.
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Eric Smearman
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Let's see it, Eric!
Sadly, I don't have it at hand. It's packed away somewhere in my
parents' house in West Virginia and I'm here in Las Vegas.
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Joe Hollon
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I'll show off my Kane page:
This page fell into my lap at a price I couldn't refuse. I felt it has a lot of the Gil Kane traits we are all praising in this thread. One of the prize pieces in my collection for sure.
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Marc Cheek
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That's a fantastic page Joe!
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Eric Sofer
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Mr. Byrne, you're in the biz, so you might know; how much of the Silver Age Gil Kane was his pencilling, and how much was the inker? As noted, his layouts were tremendous and dynamic, no doubt - but as time passed, Mr. Kane's work seemed to get a touch sloppier... the lines didn't seem as tight and there seemed to be extraneous touch ups. Again, I'm not a pro, and you are - any ideas on this? (As a tangent, I also thought I saw the same sort of thing with Don Heck's art... which may just make me a critical reader, but still.)
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John Byrne
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Mr. Byrne, you're in the biz, so you might know; how much of the Silver Age Gil Kane was his pencilling, and how much was the inker?•• From what I have seen, Kane did what today would be called tight breakdowns. Much like Silver Age Kirby. All the details the inker needs, but without the spotting of blacks or the adding of textures.
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Brian Miller
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As a kid, I really didn't like Kane at all. However, he was probably the first artist where I could recognize his work from book to book. Didn't like his faces and really just didn't care for his work overall.
I grew up. He's easily in my top 5 comic artists. I can't get enough of his stuff. I've been trying to find an affordable copy of HIS NAME IS... SAVAGE for years.
Edited by Brian Miller on 15 January 2016 at 8:39am
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John Byrne
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As a kid, I really didn't like Kane at all. However, he was probably the first artist where I could recognize his work from book to book. Didn't like his faces and really just didn't care for his work overall. •• I would have to check the exact chronology, but Gil's was probably the second name I knew, when it came to comicbook artists. The first, if we consider that the "Bob Kane" I admired was actually an uncredited Dick Sprang. In those days before credits, one had to recognize artists by their styles, mostly, but writer Gardener Fox would usually have a little open book graphic on the first page of his story, listing his name and the penciller's. It was from this that I learned Gil's name, and later Joe Kubert's. (I was able to deduce that Fox was the writer since there was such a radical change in the art when the second name was different!)
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Trevor Smith
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Oh man, that top panel of Joe's page...
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