Posted: 23 March 2005 at 3:33pm | IP Logged | 9
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What still has to be addressed is the the idea established in various comics that Mjolnir does indeed hit with a mystical force all of its own.
Thor's hammer is a magical weapon. Not only is it a weapon, it is a striking weapon meant to do serious injury when used. Superman does lose his powers to a degree when it comes to magic.
If a magic flame blasts Superman he'll burn, a magic spell is cast preventing all capable beings from flying then Superman walks, "a magic mirror that tells what's true" reveals Superman to be Clark Kent when he stands in front of it. (That pesky Lois! )
Examples:
(1) Throwing Dr. Fate's helmut at Superman would not hurt Superman. The magical purpose of the helmut is not to be a striking weapon, however as a full face helmut which first and foremost is to hide/protect the face/identity of the wearer, Superman's X-ray vision probably coudn't penetrate it if he wanted to see who was wearing the helmut.
(2) A magical bullet would penetrate or kill Superman because it's primary function is to do what a bullet does, and the magic enables it to work on things it normally wouldn't.
(3) A magical battle hammer that has it's own mystical force of impact would eliminate Superman's invulnerability and put him down.
Superman in the case of a magic dart would not lose ALL of his powers, he could still fly use hit heat vision etc, but his invulnerability to the dart would be overcome by the magic.
There have been stories which suggested that one of the reasons Superman usually loses in battle to Captain Marvel is because he feels the impacts of Cap's blows and is hurt to a greater degree because Cap's strength is completely magical, where as if Superman were on the receiving end of a punch from The Martian Manhunter it would still hurt because of the roughly equal strength but Superman's invulnerability would offer more protection against a punch from the Martian Manhunter because his strength is not magical.
As for the Hulk's madder = stronger "cliche", that is no more a cliche then Wonder Woman's definition as being stronger then Hercules, or the Juggernaut's description as unstoppable. It is the Hulk's actual description/definition and has been throughout the majority of his comic's publication. He has no upper limit as to how strong he can get, and his rage always increases his strenght.
A Superspeed attack could most likely put the Hulk down, yet Superman never does that against the foes on his strength level, but a straight forward slugfest would lead to a Hulk victory. After all, that pale and uninspired Hulk imatation Doomsday killed Superman already.
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