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Let's not slander all of Texas, okay!
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A registered Democrat and Muslim terrorist, go to a "gun free zone" and start shooting and killing homossexuals and the enemy is NRA? Really?

I will wait for the portion of Muslims that are not radicals to come forward and support gay communities. 
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Watch THIS and tell me that an speach against gays made in Orlando ONLY TWO MONTHS AGO has nothing to do with what happened. 

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We can't go back and change this. We can do something to try and make this less likely. Reasonable restrictions on firearms is a start.

So yes, in this case, the NRA is most definitely the enemy.

So are radical religious extremists.
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Because that worked really well in Paris... and countries where people have guns, like Switzerland are subject to a higher rate of attacks. No, wait...
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France has significantly lower gun crime and murder rates than the USA.
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Marcio Ferreira
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Lance Hill, really? Well, I bet Switzerland rates are even lower...
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And, btw, since most of the Muslim world still has the death penalty or, in a few cases, life imprisonment for homosexuality, where is this 'extremists' bit coming from?  What percentage of the Muslim population has to agree with it for people in the West to accept that this is mainstream Islam?

And before someone starts, yes, at one point in the past, it was mainstream Judaism and Christianity, but it isn't anymore.  And yes, I think religious and political groups that have stopped killing gays are morally superior to those who haven't.  When Islam undergoes a religious reformation, we can reassess.  Until then, there is no greater foe of liberal values, from freedom of speech to women's rights to gay rights to freedom of religion to democratic forms of government, etc. etc. than Islam.
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I've noticed in discussions of gun regulation the same kind of obscufation that takes place in discussions about the Confederate flag. Instead of, "Which flag do you want to ban? The Battle Flag? The Star and Bars? Cause there's a difference," it's, "Well, so you want to ban automatic weapons or semi-automatic? Cause there's a difference."  It's an exercise in changing the subject. 
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Steve De Young, perfect! You nailed it.

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The enemy isn't so much "Radical Islam" as it is religious fundamentalism. Try to get the American christian right to agree with that.
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A Muslim can murder 50 homossexuals and liberals still defend their religion, but a Christian who refuses to bake a homossexual's wedding cake endures nation wide shaming on behalf of his religion.


edited to correct context.



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