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Kevin Brown
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Yes, JB, but we're a Christian country*!!!!
*note: this is sarcasm
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John Byrne
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Yes, JB, but we're a Christian country*!!!!•• That may be a big part of the problem!
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Brian Hague
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While I'm sure it was around long beforehand, I first came across the idea in the comic series "The Shadow Strikes" by Gerard Jones that in order to attain the Kingdom of Heaven, you must be forgiven for your sins. No sins means no forgiveness. No forgiveness, no entry, so... by all means, by every means, sin. Sin like there's no tomorrow. God can't forgive you your sins if you don't have any.
This came up again recently in dealing with a very, very Christian, dried-apple-headed little sweetie of a grandma at work. She was a horrible person, smiling as she stuck the knife in people and giggled behind their backs. She'd turn people in, refuse to give them their mail, throw things away, and generally perform her job with unprecedented mediocrity because, well, she didn't owe anyone HERE anything. Her allegiance was to God and God forgave her. As long she came clean about it on Sunday in that little booth, she could behave however she liked everywhere else the rest of the week. Life as a Christian is Good. It's Very Good.
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Thom Price
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After the announcement that the Trump campaign has a pathetic $1.3 million on hand, #TrumpSoPoor began trending on Twitter. My favorite? #TrumpSoPoor that he's being sponsored by a kid in Africa.
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Kevin Brown
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He just doesn't want to use his own money.
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Robbie Parry
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God can't forgive you your sins if you don't have any.
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I'll become Christian, then. And get drunk all week. And spraypaint cop cars. And then I'll listen to the most demonic metal music all night long!
On the subject of Trump, the whole thing has become like the worst comedy you can imagine.
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Kevin Hagerman
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And the punchline is: he could still end up president!
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Brian Hague
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A lot of people will never, ever vote for a woman as president. And a huge segment of the population has been successfully convinced that Clinton is a criminal, despite the lack of charges brought against her. She's likely the most investigated politician in history and none of accusations against her have stuck. She should be the most vindicated individual in our country by now, but that's not how it plays to the cheap seats.
A dirty, lying, murdering criminal as President? A woman?? Unthinkable to vast swathes of our nation's people. Trump stands a pretty damn good chance at this point of becoming the leader of the free world.
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Kevin Hagerman
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I'd like to say Brian's wrong but (anecdotally, yes) I have heard "It's a man's job" much more than I ever heard "It's a white man's job", and it really takes the wind out of my sails.
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James Woodcock
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But, Trump will make sure manufacturing comes back to the USA. How can you argue with that.
It's not like he manufactures his products in China or anything.
Is it?
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Brian Miller
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I'm about THIS close to deciding Trump has telepathic, mind cotrolling powers. Listening to NPR this morning, I heard that the president of the Southern Baptist Convention has endorsed him. Not only that, some other national Christian big-wig* was interviewed and he announced his support and stated how good friends they were, and what a good, moral (he specifically did not use the word Christian) man Trump is. Now, these big Christians are supporting a man that has publicly maintained that he is Christian, yet he's never had any reason to ask God for forgiveness. The very basis of the faith, Trump says "no, I don't do that" and they still support him. WTF am I missing? *Sorry, can't remember his name.
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Thom Price
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She's likely the most investigated politician in history and none of accusations against her have stuck. She should be the most vindicated individual in our country by now, but that's not how it plays to the cheap seats
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Hillary is either a criminal mastermind on par with Lex Luthor or on the receiving end of one of history's great political smear jobs. Obviously I think the later is far more likely. Which doesn't entirely absolve her, as I think some of her problems arise from her guardedness and the Clinton impulse to lie even when the truth would be met with a shrug.
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Trump stands a pretty damn good chance at this point of becoming the leader of the free world.
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No chickens should be counted just yet as elections can be stolen or bungled, but this is looking like Hillary's election to lose. Polling, funding, voter trends, party unity and the Electoral College are all in her favor.
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