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Anthony J Lombardi Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 9:06am | IP Logged | 1
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JB hop into your time machine. Go back and tell that young pup that eventually he'll be on an even playing field with Neal Adams.
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Presumably I would be borrowing that time machine from my Future Self who had come back to give me the news? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`` Naturally you young pup :)
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marios ksidonas Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 10:36am | IP Logged | 2
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Eric...of course the covers are sumbolic!I just saw the cover and an obsarvation came up!this does not reduce the value of the artist or of the cover!
¨n any case, I smell editorial meddling. I'd bet a nickel Neal drew Ra's holding just the shirt and the cape, or drew hair on Batman's leg.¨¨ LOL!!!!! Mr Byrne...did you really had those kind of matters????I am asking this cause you were the definite artist in drawing a really HAIRY Wolverine! And the most truthfull to a real hairy guy!(it happens for me to be one ,not in the scale of wolvie...) I have seen many artists drawing bodyhair in the most awkward kind of type and places!
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 11:09am | IP Logged | 3
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Certainly think it can be argued that ... Rob Liefeld :) are better than Neal Adams.
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My god.
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 11:10am | IP Logged | 4
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JB wrote:
I smell editorial meddling. I'd bet a nickel Neal drew Ra's holding just the shirt and the cape, or drew hair on Batman's leg. |
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Give the man a cigar! Here's the story:
Adams explained: “It’s because (editor) Julie Schwartz refused to let me have bare legs on Batman. It was OK to do the bare chest, but if he had his pants off that would imply that he had taken his shorts off as well. So you couldn’t do that. So I said ‘But he’s got a costume!’ and Julie says, ‘Nobody will notice.’ And it’s true.”
In my case at least, Schwartz was right. I didn't notice it when I first got the issue (as 6-year-old). Didn't notice until years later.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 11:24am | IP Logged | 5
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Julie had an annoying habit of being "logical" in all the wrong places. Once he was in Joey Cavaleri's office when I turned in some GENERATIONS pages. He looked over Joey's shoulder, pointed to a panel and asked "What's being reflected in Clark Kent's classes?""Windows!" said Joey and I, almost simultaneously.
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marios ksidonas Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 11:55am | IP Logged | 6
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I smell editorial meddling. I'd bet a nickel Neal drew Ra's holding just the shirt and the cape, or drew hair on Batman's leg.
After Jasons link....this was Neals vision? (To all Adams fans ...its just a joke ,,,i am also a Neal Adams fan!)
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Joe Smith Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 1:01pm | IP Logged | 7
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I never noticed until this thread.
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Anthony J Lombardi Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 2:03pm | IP Logged | 8
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Certainly think it can be argued that ... Rob Liefeld :) are better than Neal Adams.
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My god. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Didn't that one almost make your head explode.. :)
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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 3:03pm | IP Logged | 9
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When I read/hear Neal talk about his approach to comics, it's clear how much his innovations were a combination of talent and clear thinking. It wasn't that he just tried to figure out how to make things DIFFERENT, but more like trying to make them as GOOD as they should be. For example, he admired the inking of Stan Drake and noticed many textures that no one was using in comic books-- so (because he was good enough at them) he got to be the first guy to use them widely. He identified several such opportunities in coloring and style (not the least of which was remembering how COOL the Batman should really be).
It's maybe not an easy thing to say properly, but I sense this kind of thinking in the career of John Byrne as well --identifying overlooked opportunities to make things as cool as they SHOULD be, and stepping in whenever possible.
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2016 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | 10
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The pants thing doesn't bother me, in much the same way as a UK Spider-Man comic cover once featured Jameson smoking a cigar - whilst unconscious.
And in a 60s Superman comic, Perry White was dressed as Superman, but removed his mask - and was happily smoking a cigar. All part of the charm.
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2016 at 7:54am | IP Logged | 11
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Marios Ksidonas - you forgot to put the little bats on the Bat-underwear. :)
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marios ksidonas Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2016 at 2:45pm | IP Logged | 12
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@Eric LOL!!! My bad!!!
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