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Robbie Parry
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Posted: 07 November 2016 at 1:56pm | IP Logged | 1  

Really not sure what to think about this:


I can understand protecting jobs, but protesting is about all they will be able to do. There's no legal basis for action, it would seem.


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John Byrne
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Ridiculous. This ship sailed a long time ago.
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Robbie Parry
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Does seem a bit of a storm in a teacup, doesn't it?

If I were running the Musician's Union, I'd probably have much bigger fish to fry.
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Really? If I go to a live theatre production, I expect it to be live. I don't think I've ever seen musical theatre and had the music be played extensively as a backing track. Unless I've been duped...


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I did not get any sense of deception from this. Did I miss something?
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I've been to lots of stage productions with pre-recorded music.
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Joseph Greathouse
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I think the deception is marketing the show as the ultimate live experience and then using backing tracks to replace live musicians.  

It is a common practice.  Often, a touring show does not tour with a full band. Instead they will hire local musicians play and fill in additional accompaniment with tracks. In this case, it sounds as if the tour is largely relying on the tracks over live musicians, yet maintaining the "ultimate live experience" description.  It seems as though the Musicians Union is just trying to get in front of a trend before it has a large scale impact on the members since the use of tracks is so easy in our digital world.
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Robbie Parry
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It all still seems like a storm in a teacup. A union - any union - only has a limited number of causes it can campaign for (and limited time in which to do it). I'm not a musician, but if I was, I'd want the Musicians' Union frying much bigger fish.
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What is an example of a big fish? 
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Robbie Parry
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Not an expert on trade unions, or musicians' unions, but bigger fish might include copyright protection, the impact of Brexit on musicians' rights, fair pay for musicians, etc.
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It`s cost cutting,there was a similar outcry a couple of years ago regarding Pantomime versions of Snow White using local school kids as dwarves instead of Equity card holding real dwarves.As with others,i think this case might be about the billing as being the ultimate live experience.Many famous bands/artists use backing tracks,pre-recorded vocals etc with no union trouble.
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an someone please explain? Why go and see 'live' music if it is pre-recorded?

I go to see a performer perform live to see them live, not to hear the record. Yes, I get that sometimes the dancing and stage show can add to it, but for me, the main reason would be to see them perform live.

A stage show is a different thing. I don't necessarily want to hear actors perform Disney songs - that is all about the stage show, so I'm OK with pre-recorded music there. BUT, if you are a singer or musician in a band, I want live music. Enhance it with pre-recorded stuff, but you perform your bits live with no miming.
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Posted: 11 November 2016 at 7:13am | IP Logged | 13  

Milli Vanilli. 
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