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Robbie Parry
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Posted: 07 August 2018 at 5:36pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

 John Young wrote:
There was some comment, that a Trump supporter had said to the effect, "I don't care what he does as long as it drives the democrats crazy."

Who's the one we cherish most in our lives? Probably our mothers, the ones who carried us for 9 months and then gave birth. 

Yet no-one, myself included, agrees with their mother 100% of the time. I've certainly had arguments with my mother in my life. ;-)

So when someone 100% supports a politician NO MATTER WHAT, well they are fucked in the head. Deluded. Brainwashed. 


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In a million years I never thought Trump would get elected.  I knew there were people that liked him but I had zero realization that so many people would back him.  

The ideals of America are dead.  This is a country where 50% of the people are happy we are locking children up away from their parents, are actively hateful of people different from them, and want to make sure their favorite rich white person gets richer.

"This is not who we are." It's time to face the ugly truth and admit that it's EXACTLY what we've become! The shocking fact is not that half the country thinks Trump is racist, it is that the other half doesn't!
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I think without the help of Russia who he clearly at least wanted to collude with he might not have even just squeaked in... squeaked in with 3,000,000 fewer votes. Take out facebook and twitter allowing propaganda and phony pretend anti-Hilary news about pizza parlours and dead bodies and how might it have turned out? We'll never know, and might-have-beens are the saddest things. :^(
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Hyperbole makes for a weak argument. In what reality is 50% of the US any of those things. People talk too much in absolutes. The left are not saints and the right are not evil. Being white does not make one privileged and being of colour does not make one downtrodden. Being against illegal immigration does not make a person racist. Being a Capitalist does not make you the devil and having socialist ideas does not make you a Communist.

When someone 100% disagrees with a politician no matter what, are they fucked in the head, deluded or brainwashed, as well?

No one is looking for solutions if they will not engage in reasonable discussion with those that disagree. You are not changing anyone's perspective when you surround yourself with those that sympathize with your point of view. 

When LeBron James says he would not sit down with Trump but he would with Obama, he does a disservice to those that see him as a leader. It is not Obama that needs to understand LeBron's issues it is the man who has power to effect change. If sitting down together gives even the slightest possibility of change or understanding it is better than not and having 0%.


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When LeBron James or someone of his notoriety refuses to even meet with the Manchurian Cantaloupe, I think it is because of the propaganda that would follow. Rump has shown he will twist and misrepresent the truth and even outright lie about such a meeting. I agree that if people in power don't sit down and discuss how to make the world better then no peaceful change will come. But why meet to change the world for the better if the person you intend to meet with is not interested in changing the status quo? The GOP is looking out for the GOP, not the citizens.
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Being white does not make one privileged 

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You continually and consistently misunderstand the concept of white privilege.
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David Allen Perrin
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Posted: 08 August 2018 at 5:17am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

“Being white does not make one privileged.”

So you have no idea what White Priviledge is, do you?

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Richard Stevens
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"the Manchurian Cantaloupe"

That is beautiful.
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Thomas Woods
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So you have no idea what White Priviledge is, do you?

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A way to attack and villainize white people? A way to
justify racist comments against whites?
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Not in the slightest
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Trump is crowing right now about how Maxine Waters and other 'acting-up' type fanatics following her (and tantruming/throwing things when they see a Republican, even a black woman in a restaurant not enacting evil child caging legislation in any way) has handed him a 'yuuuuge' victory in that 13 of 14 candidates he backed 'won' last night. A couple are actually too close to call, but that imbecilic restaurant scene all over youtube and the internet right beforehand can't have helped. :^(

I think Russia is doing a great job in egging both sides of fanatics on, and only one can be the grow-up in the room. Way to blow it so-called Democrats! I think they need to put away the freebie wish-lists and stunts on the left and focus on what is vital right now because the emergency red warning lights have been flashing for awhile now.

Lebron James and Don Lemon are two people I do respect though, and I think the whole working with Trump thing is a loser too, and as said he will try and co-opt and then if unsuccessful all the blame goes to the other person (as usual).
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 Thomas Woods wrote:
A way to attack and villainize white people? A way to 
justify racist comments against whites?

Nope.  Try again.
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...... wow
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Yes I do understand what the concept of White Privilege is and I purposely did not use that term because I was not referring to privilege in that context. Thank you for telling me what I know and do not know though.
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Yes I do understand what the concept of White Privilege is and I purposely did not use that term because I was not referring to privilege in that context. Thank you for telling me what I know and do not know though.

Your arguments were too subtle for most here Michael. You need to speak in narratives and reflexively - Trump Bad, Whites racist, Russians control everything. Or, you can try to show off a bit by throwing around terms like "white privilege" and "Manchurian candidate". Or if you're feeling clever, you can "try" being witty by using terms like Rump, or Cheeto, Orange- _______, etc......But you can't be subtle.

I'm curious - In such a racist country such as the US, how have Asian, Filipino, and female Indian citizens done so well? They are better off financially than whites. Why do Black-immigrants that come into this country earn 30% more than Black Americans? I mean, according to people on this list they are doubly despised here in the racist USA what with them not only being Black, but being immigrants as well. Plug that into the narrative and LMK how that comes out.

How is the leading indicator of how you will succeed economically in life, (the illegitimacy rate), which is 77% for Black Americans the fault of whites? I've always been curious of how something that is so obviously correlated to poverty, and so easily controlled, is never touted. Maybe it's racist to even bring it up. Or at the very least it makes people uncomfortable to hear.

Recent polls have shown a tremendous surge in Black support for Trump. And it's shaking people up. So look for more of the Trump the Racist narratives to amp up over the next few weeks. 




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Recent polls have shown a tremendous surge in Black
support for Trump.

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I've been following a lot of them on youtube, it's
amazing to see. And the Walkaway movement.

But democrats can't have that, they need division,
victims, resentment ... not unity.
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This is where Trump proved himself racist... what other motivation would anyone have to distribute phony statistics about blacks being violent?

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov /23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/

What he tweeted...



"as several news organizations quickly noted, the "Crime Statistics Bureau" doesn’t exist." Still people voted for this?

More recent racism from him...

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/sports/article-trump-and-th e-black-athlete-witnessing-one-of-the-oldest-and-ugliest/


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'Winning' with record numbers of lies, sheer hate and blame for all sorts of groups of people, divide and conquer attempt up to trying to break up Nato and the European Union, a professed lover of chaos and debt, oh, plus lots of misinformation 'help' from Russia... don't be moved from your center... don't become the extreme reactionary this born into privilege billionaire victim-in-chief wants and needs.

As for the not voting because both sides are bad... enjoy the Russian language classes and Trump brand asbestos (your new most favored trade partner)!


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....blah, blah,.....russians, blah, blah.....

What EVIDENCE is there of COLLUSION on the part of Trump and the Russians? Give me something! I've been waiting, and all I hear is you presenting it as a fact, with absolutely no proof on anything! Now we do have proof that Clinton paid russian agents for dirt on Trump. But I guess that doesn't meet your standard. It would help your cause greatly if you had some facts backing you up. But just repeating the same thing over and over, doesn't make it true - no matter how much you'd like it to be true.

And saying someone is a racist because they called two black men "dumb"? Come on! That's ridiculous. So you can't call someone dumb if they're black? I guess I'll have to add that to the ever expanding list then. He's said far worse things about white people as well. Here's how I act - if someone says something dumb, I'll say it's dumb. If they say also to dumb things, I'll call them dumb. And I'll do that no matter their race. Because you see, I can look at them as an individual, and don't worry about their color.....but somehow this has become the new racism. Welcome to Bizarro World 2018.
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"Recent polls have shown a tremendous surge in Black support for Trump. And it's shaking people up. So look for more of the Trump the Racist narratives to amp up over the next few weeks. "

 
So you found 'a poll' that tells you black 'support' for Trump has "surged"?
  
 If 99.9% of African Americans polled think Trump is a fucking piece of shit on Monday of last week...and Monday this week only 79.9% think he is a fucking piece of shit...does that count as a surge of 'support'?

Just stop it.


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"What EVIDENCE is there of COLLUSION on the part of Trump and the Russians? Give me something! I've been waiting, and all I hear is you presenting it as a fact, with absolutely no proof on anything! "

Nobody gives a shit about COLLUSION (except Dumb Donald!)  But isn't it funny that in one instant Trump can claim "collusion is not a crime"....and in the next BREATH accuse Hillary and the Democrats of....COLLUSION!? 

'We' are interested in CONSPIRACY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE!


If you can go through this ENTIRE experience and see that so MANY of the maggots Trump's orbit have some kind of sketchy / illegal ties and links to shady Russian figures...and think that none of this has anything to do with him personally you must be Ivanka Trump PRETENDING to be a JBF member.

If you believe that the meeting (about information to oppose Clinton...and NOT about adoptions as they lied about) IN TRUMP TOWER with Dickhea...err..Don Jr. and so many Trump minions and shady ass Russian figures went on without Trump's knowledge and blessing...then you are BEYOND reasoning with.




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Reminds me of a George Bailey meme I saw, "Every time
CNN says 'Russia' a new Trump voter is born.

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Russians banned from entering the U.S. found out to have visited the white house only when Russian state media crows about it Trump Tower meeting he now says was to get dirt on Hilary through hacking, then supplied via wikileaks by Russians, ... nobody but me may care but I like the U.S.A.and it's people. Promises not kept all over the place like the promise to release his full tax info.

Yeah, sure, blah blah blah, slip slide and away out of the reality around you if you want to, I think democracy and something that has worked for over two hundred years is worth fighting for...

At least quit referring to Reagan at all, still seeing his picture and his Make America Great slogan all over these Trump people, such a dishonest steal, he knew a hope destroying evil empire when he saw one at least. Maybe Fox News and Brietbart can merge with RT News and Pravda (Truth) soon?


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@Rebecca

I see no daylight between FOX, Brietbart, Pravda and RT at this point.
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Some fun stuff from the Failing New York times

Trump's Racism - The Definitive List

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