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Richard Stevens
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"Any lawmakers trying to complicate voters' rights is against democracy."

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Can't argue with that!
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David Allen Perrin
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" If you are a citizen, you should be able to vote period. No registration at a state level should be required."

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Michael Casselman
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Aren't non-citizens also able to get a SSN?
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I don't think it's a SSN, but they get an ID number. 
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Brian Peck
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And they should have Election Day be a national holiday. Or at least have it on
the weekend.
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Brandon Scott Berthelot
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Problem with both is that a lot of the people they are
trying to keep from voting often have to work on
national holidays and weekends. I usually did back in
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Michael Casselman
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With the exception of things like oddball special elections, the day voting is held on is not the problem. Anyone who can read a calendar and has any sense of prior planning *shouldn't* have an issue voting on election day or with an absentee vote (barring last minute situations that prevent a person from getting to the polls).
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I agree that voting should be easy to plan ahead for and execute with or without absentee ballots. But with a citizenry that can barely plan for retirement I can also see where these seemingly small scheduling hurdles are viewed as insurmountable when exercising the right to vote. There are mechanisms that make voting easy and simple, but is there any harm in trying to make it easier and simpler?
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Michael: With the exception of things like oddball special
elections, the day voting is held on is not the problem.
Anyone who can read a calendar and has any sense of prior
planning *shouldn't* have an issue voting on election day
or with an absentee vote (barring last minute situations
that prevent a person from getting to the polls).

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Proper planning skills is not a prerequisite skill for the
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David Allen Perrin
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Speaking of making things easier....



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Anyone who can read a calendar and has any sense of prior
planning *shouldn't* have an issue voting on election day
or with an absentee vote

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I take issue with this. I work from 8am to 6-7pm M-F. I have an hour's drive to work. So, I usually leave the house before 7 and don't get home until usually between 7:30 and 8:30. My poll station is open from 9-5, so unless I want to miss a few hours of work, voting on election day is out. Voting early is only done M-F from 8am-5pm in our county. This is when I'm at work. So, pretty much, if I want to vote I lose work time which means I lose money and in effect, I'm sort of paying to vote.

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Proper planning skills is not a prerequisite skill for the right to vote.

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I guess that's what separates the 'right' to vote from the 'willingness' to vote. it's one thing to have a right, and another to properly exercise it. The entire voting process needs to be overhauled, starting with the basic awareness of the process with civics classes in school, to the registration process to the actual mechanisms of how votes are cast.

If someone is motivated or compelled to exercise their right to vote, it shouldn't be that difficult to go to their nearest polling place and cast a ballot. There should be simple 'database' of some sort that can verify age/residency/citizenship. There should be enough polling facilities/machines to handle capacity of voters that utilize any particular polling place (so that we don't hear about crazy lines or wait-times). Absentee voting systems should be streamlined for those who are away from their designated polling place.

From my experience locally helping people get registered, it's always seemed pretty straight-forward, without all the horror stories that I've heard from people in large cities. Lines to vote? I think the longest line I was ever in was only a couple of minutes this last November, and only because I hit theafter-work/dinner-rush around 5:30 in my town. The biggest issues I've ever had to deal with at a local level is with the transient military population and those who otherwise move around frequently, and even then, they were quick fixes (again, for those who were proactive about exercising their rights). Whenever I hear the horror stories, my first thought is usually along the lines of "who the hell is the local commissioner of elections who let it get that screwed up?"

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