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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 September 2020 at 9:57am | IP Logged | 1
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Think about just how many Americans are letting this happen WILLINGLY.
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Same exact thing happened in Germany in the 1930's. Anyone missing or ignoring the parallels isn't paying attention. Nearly everything he has done has matched or nearly matched what Hitler did. Up to and including the "secret police". (Remember what happened in Portland?) And now he's actively trying to do away with the election, just as Hitler did.
He's going to have to be dragged out of the White House physically. I guarantee it.
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 September 2020 at 10:59am | IP Logged | 2
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The parallels are feint.
Trump didn't have an equivalent to the brown shirts. He didn't burn down the Capitol. He didn't make other political parties illegal. He didn't have the army swear a personal allegiance to him. Though he's fond of using his executive powers, he hasn't pushed through anything equivalent to the Enabling Act. He already has all the enablers he needs in the Senate.
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Tim O Neill Byrne Robotics Security
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 10918
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Posted: 25 September 2020 at 11:43am | IP Logged | 3
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Trump's suppression of mail-in voting is part of the Republican's ongoing effort to suppress the vote by reducing the number of polling venues and gerrymandering counties to disenfranchise voters. They have been largely successful - just like their constant attacks on Democrats as inherently evil, this has been their standard and consistent effort. The Supreme Court hypocrisy reveals they are purely opportunistic - the Republican party no longer stands for any political philosophy because they their only means to win is to create doubt about the truth and vilify their opponent in a kind of sick national sporting event.
It appears the only thing Republicans dislike about Trump is his inability to use dog whistles and coded language to conceal their true intentions. This element to his personality further excites Republican white supremecists as they love he "says what we're all thinking" (shudder), but I am hoping this further exposes him to any swing voters. The ongoing efforts by Republicans to appoint federal judges, appoint a Supreme Court judge last minute, and rig the vote points to their essential necessity - the population is becoming more diverse, and they will lose power as time goes on. They are not just trying to change the vote, they are trying to change the rules so they stay in power, It's how racists "won" reconstruction and kept the country in Jim Crow for so long.
I don't have any respect for Trump because the through line to all of his terrible judgement is based on his one go-to move - he lies. The one quality that makes me lose complete respect for someone. And now we see how lies are used to divide us all and spread false health information that is literally killing people.
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 September 2020 at 12:18pm | IP Logged | 4
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I'd have to agree with all that, Tim. Purely opportunistic nicely sums up the key parts of the Republican party and their actions. I'm sure there are some moral, responsible, even idealistic, members of the Republican party, but they are so rarely heard and bereft of influence as to be effectively irrelevant.
And prodigious, compulsive lying is probably the most notable thing about Trump.
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4410
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Posted: 25 September 2020 at 12:36pm | IP Logged | 5
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Meanwhile can you imagine what sort of female justice would take their SCOTUS seat literally over the dead body of only the second woman to serve at that level? What she would have had to intimate willingness to do in order to be afforded this great position? But hey, it's okay, as so many commentators have been sincerely commenting, Trump showed real respect toward R B-G the last few days. Geeziz! How does any woman even vote for this creep where he is going to be part of undoing most of her life's work. Trump is 'their guy'? All I can say is: Herman Cain, and to google an old photo of a black woman holding a sign that reads 'I Believe in Jim Jones'.
I still mostly see Mussolini in Trumpo, all he needs is to have psuedo-military costumes designed for himself. Successful businessman; so many tried to inform people on that four years ago, why does everyone close off behind little ghetto walls of various kinds? is it so much difficulty to pay attention, that this alone would be doing something... but then it's a huge imposition to expect people to wear a simple face mask during a historic virus outbreak... I guess if we're going to be such soft headed self-absorbed things we deserve a nasty fate? By the way, Oregon and Washington will be very welcome to join Canada after the collapse if it occurs, or Cascadia or whatever. Ha ha. :^|
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Marc M. Woolman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 April 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 2096
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Posted: 26 September 2020 at 10:28pm | IP Logged | 6
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Democrats need to vote in- person and NOT by mail. That's the only way to prevent the supreme court from deciding in Trump's favour to stop counting mail-in ballots. That's it. Vote in-person or face 4 more years of Trump as president.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 September 2020 at 3:46am | IP Logged | 7
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Yep, that’s the scenario now.
But he will dispute it anyway, & the Supreme Court will give it him anyway.
You now have four more years - & let’s face it, he WILL try to extend beyond the two term limit, so who knows how many years after.
& then it will be Ivanka.
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David Allen Perrin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 September 2020 at 7:26am | IP Logged | 8
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Remember when the makers of Game Of Thrones proposed a series for HBO about a ‘what-if’ scenario where the south won the Civil War?
Remember the outrage at a series supposedly propagating the notion that White Supremacy was being normalized enough to become entertainment? So much so that the idea for the show was scrapped and hasn't been mentioned again?
Looks like real life laughed and said “Hey, hold my beer....”
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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 September 2020 at 11:44am | IP Logged | 9
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There are already die-hard Trump supporters on Facebook calling vote by mail `voter fraud'. Not a system that could be used to commit fraud, but outright calling mail-in votes fraudulent.
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 September 2020 at 2:23pm | IP Logged | 10
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I find it interesting that a website devoted to a comic book storytelling master has become so politically charged that these are generally the only topics that trend here. Over the last four years, HALF of the forums membership has been made to feel uncomfortable and driven away. Where I used to post 3 to 5 times a day, discussing all manner of topics. Now, I'm lucky if I visit once a month.
What was once a fun site, full of debate, has turned into an echo chamber of hate towards Trump. At worst, we get this man for another 4 years. As I've mentioned, I didn't vote for him. I look at the Republican Party and see three makor events in my lifetime where the people's best interests weren't served; Lobbyists, NAFTA and THE PATRIOT ACT. I refuse to give any more ground to bigger Government and both sides are guilty.
I look at the Democrats and their support for Antifa and BLM, both organizations self proclaiming to be followers of Marxism. I look at the lock down still going on in California and the mass exodus of people from that state. I fear Facists taking control, but I think many of you better look to your side of the aisle for the current problems. Trump isn't the savior many make him out to be and he isn't the devil you'd think him to be either. He can be both an idiot and a criminal mastermind. You have to make up your mind.
But, more to the point, I hope some day this forum becomes about comics again. I've grown tired of seeing Patriotism being exchanged for paranoia on both side and that paranoia being fed by what we call the media; CNN, MSNBC, The networks and yes, even FOX NEWS.
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Eric Ladd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 September 2020 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | 11
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“I hope some day this forum becomes about comics again“
Have you seen the Fan Fic section? Or the Sports, Movies, TV, Star Wars, Star Trek and Music sections? This thread is politically charged, but not the entire website by a long shot.
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 September 2020 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | 12
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@David,
I remember the shitstorm about that proposed series.
And yet, here we are.....
When it comes to political scenarios happening in life. It's not IF they can happen. It's WHEN.
Let's see where America's head and heart is come November 3rd.
Edited by James Johnson on 27 September 2020 at 4:09pm
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