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Philip Obaza
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Posted: 18 February 2017 at 4:08pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Jordan Peele's new horror film GET OUT opens next Friday.

TRAILER:

It's currently at 100% on RT:
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/get_out

I really enjoy Peele's material, so I'll definitely be checking this out. It looks 
like it addresses a few social issues, while telling a wildly creepy story at 
the same time. 
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 A wonderful thriller.  I hesitate calling it 'horror'.   At least not as it is depicted these days.    

One of those movies you keep peeling apart in your head afterwards.   

Smart and REALLY provocative.   And yes, it's commentary on race in America is real as fuck.   And it's timing couldn't be better.
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Won't be getting out (ahem) to see this in the theaters, but this will definitely be a rental... the ecstatic reviews certainly have me intrigued.



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Posted: 27 February 2017 at 11:01am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Anyone else catch this yet?

Bueller?
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A wonderful thriller. I hesitate calling it 'horror'.   At least not as it is
depicted these days.

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I can understand why you'd say this, as people expecting a modern
horror film might be disappointed, but at the same time, I thought it was
firmly rooted in some very classic horror films.

I enjoyed it a lot, even though I thought the build-up ran a little long.

I thought the commentary on race was smart, but it'll still be lost on
some of the people who need to hear it.
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Posted: 27 February 2017 at 12:54pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I found it a little "Hitchcockian" in how it unfolded.  

I think I wanna see it again soon.  But I'm afraid now that I know "the truth" I won't have that same visceral feeling of "Oh...SHIT!" to enjoy.


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Posted: 27 February 2017 at 5:27pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I enjoyed the hell out of this.  Kudos to Jordan Peele and the actors & crew involved, but also big applause for Blumhouse Productions.  They seem to be in "can't miss" phase these days.
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Posted: 28 February 2017 at 9:24am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I can't remember a movie that used nearly EVERY scene as a significant tool to tell the story as effectively as Get Out did.  

Almost nothing is wasted and the payoffs are so gradual and seamless. Best 3rd act I've seen in many many years.
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One fairly major spoiler online squelched any interest I had in this. Much the same as happened with ARRIVAL. When I find a central premise unbelievable -- yes, even in a horror movie -- I feel no urge to sit thru the whole film, however well made, to get to that point.
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I enjoyed the performances, but was not surprised by any thing at all in the
movie. Maybe I've watched too many movies and have read too many books
and comics, but I was able to call every reveal well before it actually happened.

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I enjoyed this movie quite a lot. It gave me lot to think about afterwards.
However, for a movie that felt fairly well grounded, the reveal at the end, of what was actually happening, hurts my head. It doesn't really distract from my over-all enjoyment of the movie, but it nags at me a bit.

Recommended.
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I also liked it.  Despite the relatively paranoid premise the gradual build up and good characterizations held my interest and it had some welcome humor.  The more I thought about it after the fact, the more questions I had regarding the scheme of Whitford etal, though I understand why some of what bothered me was probably there. 

MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD.








 
Nuerosurgeon Bradley Whitford's scheme to co-opt young black men for various nefarious purposes that the group of white people at the party presumably bid on was clear, but his methods felt a bit murky.   It seemed Whitford was prepping Chris the protagonist for a brain transplant (put blind older Stephen Root's brain in Chris's younger, healthy body with good eyes.)  But had this ever been done before?  The maid and manservant both had forehead scars but those weren't brain transplant scars (and no one would want to be transplanted into "the help's" bodies after all.)  Those were more like lobotomy scars.

Some might argue the now-docile former jazz musician husband of the older white woman might have been a brain transplant, but was this so?  I got no sense of any other personality "present" in that body.  It just seemed like the young jazz musician was Stepford-ized and brainwashed with no personality at all ala Whitford's servants.  Certainly the real man was struggling to get out, but was there another brain in there?  Maybe that's a metaphysical question that can't be answered, but if there was someone else there, I would have liked to hear that personality assert itself.  It didn't happen.  Assuming the docile husband wasn't a brain transplant, would Whitford really have let all those other conspirators in on a brain transplant scheme before knowing it would work?   As all evil white folk know, the longest-lived secrets are best kept in the smallest circles. 

Whatever.  The scene where everyone in the house suddenly stopped talking and just stared up at Chris on the second floor was a chilling, worthy Hitchcockian moment.  It's fun to see Whitford's seamless transition from annoying, scheming young white house cynic to annoying, scheming old fogey white man killer.  I suspect he (and a lot of others) will get a lot of work from this movie.
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 QUOTE:
The maid and manservant both had forehead scars but those
weren't brain transplant scars (and no one would want to be
transplanted into "the help's" bodies after all.) Those were more like
lobotomy scars.


I feel that you missed bits of the end, because the things you bring up
were explicitly addressed. Those two weren't pretending (much) to be
the help at all, other than letting the family identify them as such.


 INVISO TEXT (Click or highlight to reveal):
They were the grandparents.



 QUOTE:
Certainly the real man was struggling to get out, but was there
another brain in there?



 INVISO TEXT (Click or highlight to reveal):
Yes, parts of the original brain close to the brain stem had to
be left intact, which meant the residual personality still existed (Horror
Movie Science!). That's what the sunken place represented.
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In regards to the grandparents:
My daughter and I were trying to figure out if there was something wrong with the grandparents. Possibly, the transplant didn't quite go right, or their mental capacities had already diminished prior to the transplant. They were odd.
The other man who had been transplanted into the musician acted more lucid, especially in hind site.  
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Ahhh... thanks.  I had a sneezing fit near the end and obviously missed a bit of relevant dialogue!




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I'm not quite clear on why the one black guy was running in the middle of the night (the one who nearly scared the daylights out of Chris).   I figured this was some kind of Stepford-esque release of pent up energy / emotion but with the above revelation, that doesn't seem to be the case. 



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I'd take that to be the grandfather revelling in the physique he had chosen.

 Like Dan Marcoux, there were few surprises (in fact, the path it follows is so close to the Stepford Wives, that it feels like a remake with a twist in many respects).

Though the film was well made in general -- I appreciated the creepy tension and the slow build -- I felt the plot had several not so smart bits.

Wouldn't it make sense to drug Chris before the operation? Wouldn't it make sense to have him in place on the operating table before you take the brain pan off the other patient?

Why bring him out of the trance at all after the first time they put him in it?

Why keep the tea cup as the post-hypnotic cue for paralysis and not give a command word?

Why is the daughter so bad at lying when Rod the TSA friend rang her, after being so faultlessly convincing for the prior five months?

How does the daughter not clock on to what has happened to her 'grandfather' when Chris stuns him with the flash, given she was directly involved in an incident with the same circumstances and outcome not 24 hours before? 
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"I'm not quite clear on why the one black guy was running in the middle of the night (the one who nearly scared the daylights out of Chris).   I figured this was some kind of Stepford-esque release of pent up energy / emotion but with the above revelation, that doesn't seem to be the case.  "


Spoiler....

The "running man" was indeed grandfather Armatage (and originator of the swapping procedure) who lost to Jesse Owens and missed the Olympics.  He was enjoying the physical prowess of his strong body and running as he did when he was a young man.  




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Peter, I have a few responses to your points. 

Wouldn't it make sense to drug Chris before the operation? Wouldn't it make sense to have him in place on the operating table before you take the brain pan off the other patient?

Maybe drugging him would interfere with the procedure, which might explain why hypnosis plays such a vital role. It's clear that Peele wants the procedure to be more of a macguffin. As for patient placement, I think the villains are clearly demonstrated to be arrogant beyond belief. They've also been quite successful at this as indicated by the number of previous victims (when Chris finds the pictures).  Also, have you ever met a neurosurgeon? They tend to be pretty cocky to begin with.

Why bring him out of the trance at all after the first time they put him in it?
Again, might be necessary for the procedure to have more than one trance session. We can't be sure, which is what creeps me out about the procedure.

Why keep the tea cup as the post-hypnotic cue for paralysis and not give a command word?
Again, a tipoff to the arrogance of the villains. It hasn't failed them yet. Stylistically, that sound is a hell of a lot more grating & anxiety-inducing than a spoken word..

Why is the daughter so bad at lying when Rod the TSA friend rang her, after being so faultlessly convincing for the prior five months?
Fair point. 

How does the daughter not clock on to what has happened to her 'grandfather' when Chris stuns him with the flash, given she was directly involved in an incident with the same circumstances and outcome not 24 hours before? 
I don't remember this part well enough. Chalk it up to her panicking in the moment?
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Why bring him out of the trance at all after the first time they put him in
it?
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Again, might be necessary for the procedure to have more than one
trance session. We can't be sure, which is what creeps me out about
the procedure.

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Although he doesn't explain why, Stephen Root's character does say
that bringing the person out of the trance for that debriefing session is
part of the process.
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Yes, that last point is true enough.
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For some reason, I'd got it into my head that the guy playing the grandfather, Roman, was Karl Malden. Googling it, I realise that Karl Malden has been dead a good few years. The actor was Richard Herd, most famous to me as John in the original V mini-series.
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I loved a couple of the little details within the story.

"Picking cotton" literally saved Chris' life. 

The way Rose was eating her cereal snack:  Froot Loops in a
   bowl....apart from the milk.  (Coloreds separated from white!).  

The rather pointed question from the Asian "customer" to Chris.  
   He being a minority himself, wanting to know if being black would
   really make his life 'better'...or just 'different'.  

Last saw it 2 weeks ago.  Still peeling it apart. 



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The "running man" was indeed grandfather Armatage (and originator of the swapping procedure) who lost to Jesse Owens and missed the Olympics.  He was enjoying the physical prowess of his strong body and running as he did when he was a young man. 
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I get all that.  I just don't get why he's doing it in the middle of the night.
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After the grandparents reveal, I recontextualized all their strange
behavior as elderly people dealing old-age issues (as well as ironically
being uncomfortable with a black man in their home). I'd be alright with
chalking up that running episode to an old man with dementia
sundowning.
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RICK SENGER: I get all that.  I just don't get why he's doing it in the middle of the night.

Because it's creepier. My comparison is Norman Bates having his mother's corpse in the basement. It's not necessary and the movie would still be scary without it, but it's creepier. Am I off the mark here?
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